Piper Arrow vs Cessna 182

In article ,
Javier Henderson wrote:
In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.

Is the Arrow any faster than the Archer?


Yes, as you would expect given the reduced drag from the gear. However,
I don't believe the speed advantage is any more than 15kts or so, which
isn't much for the increase in insurance and maintenance costs. You can
get the same performance out of fixed-gear, fixed pitch prop airplanes
like the Tiger.



JKG

Jonathan Goodish writes:

In article ,
Javier Henderson wrote:
In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.

Is the Arrow any faster than the Archer?


Yes, as you would expect given the reduced drag from the gear. However,
I don't believe the speed advantage is any more than 15kts or so, which
isn't much for the increase in insurance and maintenance costs. You can
get the same performance out of fixed-gear, fixed pitch prop airplanes
like the Tiger.

Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

-jav

Javier Henderson wrote:
Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

-jav

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.

kontiki writes:

Javier Henderson wrote:
Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.

I guess I haven't missed much!

My Skylane cruises at 135 KTAS also, on about 13-14 GPH. The Tiger did
it on about 9.5 GPH, I sure do miss those fuel flows...

-jav

Javier Henderson wrote:
kontiki writes:


Javier Henderson wrote:

Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.


I guess I haven't missed much!

My Skylane cruises at 135 KTAS also, on about 13-14 GPH. The Tiger did
it on about 9.5 GPH, I sure do miss those fuel flows...

-jav

My Turbo Arrow IV cruises 135 KTAS on 9 - 10 GPH near surface,
and 150 KTAS with same flow at FL 100.

--

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

Javier Henderson writes:

kontiki writes:

Javier Henderson wrote:
Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.

I guess I haven't missed much!

My Skylane cruises at 135 KTAS also, on about 13-14 GPH. The Tiger did
it on about 9.5 GPH, I sure do miss those fuel flows...

I get 135 knots -calibrated- at 9.2 gallons on my 200hp Arrow. (That's
running lean of peak, GAMIs and EI engine analyzer, so it's going to take
me a while to pay off the equipment with the fuel savings. I was using
11GPH prior to the upgrade.)

-Jack

In article ,
kontiki wrote:

Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.

I've seen 140+ ktas in an arrow 180. But I've only flown
that arrow on one round trip.

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

My turbo arrow gets 150 KTAS at around 6000 ft, 12 GPH, at 65% power. Higher
speeds up high. Older arrows with the 180 HP engine probably go a bit
slower.

"kontiki" wrote in message
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Javier Henderson wrote:
Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

-jav

The Arrows I've flown generally cruise at about 135kts.