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Old June 23rd 05, 01:06 PM
UltraJohn
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W P Dixon wrote:

Colin,
Yes I was aware of the no med glider rating. Have thought about maybe
checking into that alittle more once I get this SPL done,...can always use
another endorsement huh? Sadly being medically retired does not allow
alot of funds to buy a motorglider , from the prices I have seen. And I
really have not come across any plans for building one , maybe you have a
suggestion?


Below copied and pasted from their web site, The plane won't meet SP
criterial because of it's speed but the motor glider version will. The two
are the same except the outer wing panels which you can build both and use
either as a motor glider or higher performance single seater if you have a
PPL.
John



http://www.fly-kr.com/
The KR-1 is the single seat low wing retractable monoplane which is
typically powered by smaller VW engines, up to the VW 2100. The KR-1B
motorglider is a standard KR-1 with modified outer wing sections. With this
simple wing conversion, the original KR-1 becomes an excellent self-powered
glider.
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Old June 23rd 05, 02:06 PM
COLIN LAMB
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With regard to the aircraft that changes wings to move from an airplane to a
motorglider, beware that the original classification is what the aircraft
stays at in the eyes of the FAA.

Thus, if you add longer wings to a airplane, it cannot become a glider. It
has to have been originally licensed as a glider.

Not sure about the other way around, though. If you have a licensed glider
and you put short wings on it, maybe it cannot be a glider, but it would not
be an airplane.

Colin


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Old June 23rd 05, 02:54 PM
W P Dixon
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Hey Ultra!,
I like those KR's, but I have had the same concern about it that Colin
had. I sure wish there was a Sport Pilot version of a KR. Maybe a KR 1/2 !
HAHA But I have to admit I hate fiberglass type stuff...it just eats me up.
With a total lack of decent wood available, I may have to change plans and
go with a metal plane. I still think the Mini-Coupe is kinda neat. And plans
are cheap! The Thatcher CX-4 is WAYYYY cool, but plans are expensive ( for
my poor butt anyway!).
But back to the gliders, have you seen the free glider plans on the net?
I wonder if a small engine could be mounted to that thing?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"UltraJohn" wrote in message
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Below copied and pasted from their web site, The plane won't meet SP
criterial because of it's speed but the motor glider version will. The two
are the same except the outer wing panels which you can build both and use
either as a motor glider or higher performance single seater if you have a
PPL.
John



http://www.fly-kr.com/
The KR-1 is the single seat low wing retractable monoplane which is
typically powered by smaller VW engines, up to the VW 2100. The KR-1B
motorglider is a standard KR-1 with modified outer wing sections. With
this
simple wing conversion, the original KR-1 becomes an excellent
self-powered
glider.


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Old June 23rd 05, 06:43 PM
UltraJohn
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W P Dixon wrote:

Hey Ultra!,
I like those KR's, but I have had the same concern about it that Colin
had. I sure wish there was a Sport Pilot version of a KR. Maybe a KR 1/2 !
HAHA But I have to admit I hate fiberglass type stuff...it just eats me
up. With a total lack of decent wood available, I may have to change plans
and go with a metal plane. I still think the Mini-Coupe is kinda neat. And
plans are cheap! The Thatcher CX-4 is WAYYYY cool, but plans are expensive
( for my poor butt anyway!).
But back to the gliders, have you seen the free glider plans on the
net?
I wonder if a small engine could be mounted to that thing?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick
I did a little checking and the KR-1B appears to meet the SP requirements.
They not only have an approximately 6 foot longer wingspan it is also a
different shape. The max cruise speed is 130 mph with a VW 1600 and the
stall speed is lower also bringing it within range. Doesn't help you any
with the fiberglass problem though! ;-)
John

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Old June 23rd 05, 06:48 PM
W P Dixon
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Hey,
I may have to check into that. I believe the free plans I was speaking of
is called a GOAT or something like that. I do wish a KR2 was a SP, I do like
it!!!!!!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"UltraJohn" wrote in message
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W P Dixon wrote:

Hey Ultra!,
I like those KR's, but I have had the same concern about it that Colin
had. I sure wish there was a Sport Pilot version of a KR. Maybe a KR 1/2
!
HAHA But I have to admit I hate fiberglass type stuff...it just eats me
up. With a total lack of decent wood available, I may have to change
plans
and go with a metal plane. I still think the Mini-Coupe is kinda neat.
And
plans are cheap! The Thatcher CX-4 is WAYYYY cool, but plans are
expensive
( for my poor butt anyway!).
But back to the gliders, have you seen the free glider plans on the
net?
I wonder if a small engine could be mounted to that thing?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick
I did a little checking and the KR-1B appears to meet the SP requirements.
They not only have an approximately 6 foot longer wingspan it is also a
different shape. The max cruise speed is 130 mph with a VW 1600 and the
stall speed is lower also bringing it within range. Doesn't help you any
with the fiberglass problem though! ;-)
John


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Old June 23rd 05, 10:41 PM
dje
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Maybe this is it:

http://home.att.net/~m--sandlin/bug.htm

David


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Hey,
I may have to check into that. I believe the free plans I was speaking

of
is called a GOAT or something like that. I do wish a KR2 was a SP, I do

like
it!!!!!!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"UltraJohn" wrote in message
hlink.net...
W P Dixon wrote:

Hey Ultra!,
I like those KR's, but I have had the same concern about it that

Colin
had. I sure wish there was a Sport Pilot version of a KR. Maybe a KR

1/2
!
HAHA But I have to admit I hate fiberglass type stuff...it just eats me
up. With a total lack of decent wood available, I may have to change
plans
and go with a metal plane. I still think the Mini-Coupe is kinda neat.
And
plans are cheap! The Thatcher CX-4 is WAYYYY cool, but plans are
expensive
( for my poor butt anyway!).
But back to the gliders, have you seen the free glider plans on the
net?
I wonder if a small engine could be mounted to that thing?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick
I did a little checking and the KR-1B appears to meet the SP

requirements.
They not only have an approximately 6 foot longer wingspan it is also a
different shape. The max cruise speed is 130 mph with a VW 1600 and the
stall speed is lower also bringing it within range. Doesn't help you any
with the fiberglass problem though! ;-)
John




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Old June 23rd 05, 10:57 PM
W P Dixon
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Yep!
That's the one David, Does that little critter just look like alot of
fun or what? May be just to light to hold any type of engine. Maybe one of
those small government surplus things?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"dje" wrote in message
...
Maybe this is it:

http://home.att.net/~m--sandlin/bug.htm

David


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
news
Hey,
I may have to check into that. I believe the free plans I was speaking

of
is called a GOAT or something like that. I do wish a KR2 was a SP, I do

like
it!!!!!!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"UltraJohn" wrote in message
hlink.net...
W P Dixon wrote:

Hey Ultra!,
I like those KR's, but I have had the same concern about it that

Colin
had. I sure wish there was a Sport Pilot version of a KR. Maybe a KR

1/2
!
HAHA But I have to admit I hate fiberglass type stuff...it just eats
me
up. With a total lack of decent wood available, I may have to change
plans
and go with a metal plane. I still think the Mini-Coupe is kinda neat.
And
plans are cheap! The Thatcher CX-4 is WAYYYY cool, but plans are
expensive
( for my poor butt anyway!).
But back to the gliders, have you seen the free glider plans on
the
net?
I wonder if a small engine could be mounted to that thing?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

Patrick
I did a little checking and the KR-1B appears to meet the SP

requirements.
They not only have an approximately 6 foot longer wingspan it is also a
different shape. The max cruise speed is 130 mph with a VW 1600 and the
stall speed is lower also bringing it within range. Doesn't help you
any
with the fiberglass problem though! ;-)
John





 




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