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Old June 24th 05, 03:26 AM
Peter R.
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Larry Dighera wrote:

It's only 'accepted practice' if we accept it.


Larry, if you are going to continue to post about Usenet anonymity, take it
to another newsgroup. This thread has no business in a piloting newsgroup
and you, of all people, know better, Mr FAQ-poster.



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Old June 24th 05, 03:59 AM
Jay Honeck
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It's only 'accepted practice' if we accept it.

Larry, if you are going to continue to post about Usenet anonymity, take
it
to another newsgroup. This thread has no business in a piloting newsgroup
and you, of all people, know better, Mr FAQ-poster.


Well, where, exactly, would you post a topic about Usenet anonymity on the
piloting newsgroups if NOT here?

As rare as it is, I agree 100% with Larry. Most of the spam, trolling and
general B.S. on this group originates from anonymous posters. If anonymity
was not allowed, the signal to noise ratio would vastly improve, as posters
would actually have to stand up and be counted as people.
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Old June 24th 05, 04:28 AM
Peter R.
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Well, where, exactly, would you post a topic about Usenet anonymity
on the piloting newsgroups if NOT here?


Based on my interpretation of his incessant whining, Larry was
discussing Usenet anonymity and the decline of Usenet in general,
not its specific impact on this particular group.

And, coming from the very man who was on a crusade several months back to
stop the OT posting going on here, I find it humorous that Larry continues
to post this group's charter, yet rant off topic when it fits his agenda.

So, to answer your question, discuss the decline of Usenet he

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Old June 24th 05, 06:17 AM
Montblack
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
As rare as it is, I agree 100% with Larry. Most of the spam, trolling and
general B.S. on this group originates from anonymous posters. If
anonymity was not allowed, the signal to noise ratio would vastly improve,
as posters would actually have to stand up and be counted as people.



I disagree 'almost' 100% with Larry (and you) on this issue. Cowards??
Goodness gracious!

I worked for years at the Brewery with guys named Red, Whitey, Tex, Butch,
Swanee, Bud, Slim, etc. That's how I knew them. In these newsgroups, as long
as you can match a moniker to a posting history, that's all that really
matters, IMHO.

I'm not even buying that signal to noise reasoning since (aside from the
occasional outside nonsensical spam) many of the "low" s2n threads around
here are propagated by folks using their real names.


Montblack

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Old June 24th 05, 02:07 PM
Jay Honeck
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I disagree 'almost' 100% with Larry (and you) on this issue. Cowards??
Goodness gracious!

I worked for years at the Brewery with guys named Red, Whitey, Tex, Butch,
Swanee, Bud, Slim, etc. That's how I knew them. In these newsgroups, as
long as you can match a moniker to a posting history, that's all that
really matters, IMHO.


There are always exceptions, of course. You, Newps, and Maule Driver all
come to mind as good, solid Usenet citizens, even though you choose to
remain (somewhat) anonymous.

Unfortunately, for every example of good, I can name three anonymous
evil-doers (I *love* that word!) -- or, worse, guys who appear to be using
their real names, but are actually using a real-LOOKING pen name -- who are
really nasty, and contribute little to the conversation.

Luckily, these aviation groups are the least polluted. Go over to the Ford
Mustang group, or any political group, and you'll see how bad it can get.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old June 24th 05, 05:52 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:LATue.100867$nG6.96413@attbi_s22...
I disagree 'almost' 100% with Larry (and you) on this issue. Cowards??
Goodness gracious!

I worked for years at the Brewery with guys named Red, Whitey, Tex,

Butch,
Swanee, Bud, Slim, etc. That's how I knew them. In these newsgroups, as
long as you can match a moniker to a posting history, that's all that
really matters, IMHO.


There are always exceptions, of course. You, Newps, and Maule Driver all
come to mind as good, solid Usenet citizens, even though you choose to
remain (somewhat) anonymous.

Unfortunately, for every example of good, I can name three anonymous
evil-doers (I *love* that word!) -- or, worse, guys who appear to be using
their real names, but are actually using a real-LOOKING pen name -- who

are
really nasty, and contribute little to the conversation.


I can think of more than a few evil doers that use their real names.

For example, I remember one dude goes by the name of Honeck! :~)


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Old June 25th 05, 05:00 AM
Jay Honeck
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For example, I remember one dude goes by the name of Honeck! :~)

Yeah, but no one could make up such a name. It's almost as goofy as
"General Grievous"...

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old June 25th 05, 03:54 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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For example, I remember one dude goes by the name of Honeck! :~)


Yeah, but no one could make up such a name. It's almost as goofy as
"General Grievous"...

;-)


Not to mention "Biggus Dickus"!!


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Old June 24th 05, 05:50 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It's only 'accepted practice' if we accept it.


Larry, if you are going to continue to post about Usenet anonymity, take
it
to another newsgroup. This thread has no business in a piloting

newsgroup
and you, of all people, know better, Mr FAQ-poster.


Well, where, exactly, would you post a topic about Usenet anonymity on the
piloting newsgroups if NOT here?

As rare as it is, I agree 100% with Larry. Most of the spam, trolling and
general B.S. on this group originates from anonymous posters. If

anonymity
was not allowed, the signal to noise ratio would vastly improve, as

posters
would actually have to stand up and be counted as people.


In this day of stalkers, identity thieves, etc., anyone who posts all their
personal info has got to be nuts.

Besides, what damn difference does it make if someone posts under their
birth name or as "Joe Blow"? Does it give their arguments one more gram of
credibility or one less?

Damn it, learn to judge the argument by it's logic and factual basis, not
the wrapper it comes in.


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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old June 26th 05, 11:48 PM
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Exactly. I mostly lurk here to learn something from time to time. I post
rarely but used to do it under my real name which brought me grief from
someone. I'm also the victim of identity theft, so I became a little
paranoid. I then posted under the name "lowflyer" and more recently as
"RomeoMike" (only as a lark when I got a new computer and switched to
Thunderbird). There are other usenet groups that have no problem with
trolls or incivility, even though pseudonyms are used. This group has a
problem with trolls at least partly because people, including respected
posters, choose to respond to them. And also because some here are easy
to goad into a feud. I can't prove it, but my impression is that,
compared to 5-6 years ago, there is less hard core aviation discussion
here and more chit chat amongst a group of friends, but I digress. Just
a point of view from an anonymous poster who has never trolled the group.



Matt Barrow wrote:


In this day of stalkers, identity thieves, etc., anyone who posts all their
personal info has got to be nuts.

Besides, what damn difference does it make if someone posts under their
birth name or as "Joe Blow"? Does it give their arguments one more gram of
credibility or one less?

Damn it, learn to judge the argument by it's logic and factual basis, not
the wrapper it comes in.


 




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