KVUO to KAST & Back IFR 1.8 Act. 2.7 Total "First In Act. IFR X-C"

If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC pointing out
that traffic?


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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This means someone was flying VFR not too far from your position.

For what it's worth, there was nothing in the original post that
suggested that the traffic being reported was VFR versus IFR, and at
3000' IFR was a very real possibility. Even when separation services
are being provided between two airplanes, ATC may report one as
traffic to the other (and often does).

Pete

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC pointing
out
that traffic?

Huh?

The purpose is the same reason they would point out VFR traffic: so that you
are aware of other traffic in your vicinity.

Pete

I thought the purpose was to maintain visual separation from the other
traffic. If both traffic are under IFR, then separation is automatically
provided, so I still don't see what the purpose of pointing out the other
traffic is.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
:

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC
pointing out
that traffic?

Huh?

The purpose is the same reason they would point out VFR traffic: so
that you are aware of other traffic in your vicinity.

Pete

ATC doesn't know all the time if you're IMC or VMC. Even if the traffic
in your area is also IFR and therefore under their control they still
may point it out to you so it doesn't come as a surprise when you get
within visual distance of each other. I was flying IFR in the northeast
a few years back at 5000' ATC called out "a string of sixes 4 miles 12
O'clock". As it turned out we were between layers of clouds between
4500 and 6000' or so. In a minute or so I saw 3 Dash-8's going the
opposite direction a couple of thousand feet above me. There was no
collision hazard of course but it was good that the controller told me
because I might have been surprised to see them otherwise.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
I thought the purpose was to maintain visual separation from the other
traffic. If both traffic are under IFR, then separation is automatically
provided, so I still don't see what the purpose of pointing out the other
traffic is.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
:


"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC
pointing out
that traffic?

Huh?

The purpose is the same reason they would point out VFR traffic: so
that you are aware of other traffic in your vicinity.

Pete

ATC called out "a string of sixes 4 miles 12 O'clock"

What is a "six"?

Jose
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Why would you be surprised to see airplanes flying a couple of thousand
ft above you? I never had a controller point out a traffic 2000' above
except in unusual circumstances - ie heavy C130 crossing above my flight
path etc..


Robert Chambers wrote in
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ATC doesn't know all the time if you're IMC or VMC. Even if the
traffic in your area is also IFR and therefore under their control
they still may point it out to you so it doesn't come as a surprise
when you get within visual distance of each other. I was flying IFR
in the northeast a few years back at 5000' ATC called out "a string
of sixes 4 miles 12 O'clock". As it turned out we were between layers
of clouds between 4500 and 6000' or so. In a minute or so I saw 3
Dash-8's going the opposite direction a couple of thousand feet above
me. There was no collision hazard of course but it was good that the
controller told me because I might have been surprised to see them
otherwise.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
I thought the purpose was to maintain visual separation from the
other traffic. If both traffic are under IFR, then separation is
automatically provided, so I still don't see what the purpose of
pointing out the other traffic is.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
:


"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
1.61...

If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC
pointing out
that traffic?

Huh?

The purpose is the same reason they would point out VFR traffic: so
that you are aware of other traffic in your vicinity.

Pete

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
If the other traffic were IFR, then what is the purpose of ATC pointing out
that traffic?

If you report the traffic in sight ATC can tell you to maintain visual
separation, thus relieving him or her of separation duties and allowing less
separation distance. Otherwise, it's also an enhancement to safety if you and
ATC are both assuring separation.