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Matt Whiting wrote:

True, it is just the wing that is stalling.

No, it's not. You can't get the angle of attack required to stall the wing
without hitting the tail.

You somehow seem to think that you can let the airplane down more
gradually using elevator while at a higher speed than what occurs when
the wing stalls. This simply isn't the case in most airplanes.

Bull**** -- that's *exactly* what you are doing.

It is obvious that you weren't taught full-stall landings

No, I was taught by instructors who were educated enough to know what they were
actually doing.

George Patterson
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George Patterson wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:


True, it is just the wing that is stalling.


No, it's not. You can't get the angle of attack required to stall the
wing without hitting the tail.

I get enough angle of attack that the wing will no longer support the
weight of the aircraft even with full up elevator. I'm not sure your
definition of stall, but this one works for me.


You somehow seem to think that you can let the airplane down more
gradually using elevator while at a higher speed than what occurs when
the wing stalls. This simply isn't the case in most airplanes.


Bull**** -- that's *exactly* what you are doing.

Yes, I'm using the elevator to bleed off airspeed until the wing will no
longer support the airplane. That isn't quite the same as using power
and pitch when "flying onto" the runway. The wing will still support
the weight of the airplane in that approach so you are flying it onto
the ground.


It is obvious that you weren't taught full-stall landings


No, I was taught by instructors who were educated enough to know what
they were actually doing.

How many of your instructors have been appeared in AOPA Pilot's Pilot
feature?


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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I get enough angle of attack that the wing will no longer support the
weight of the aircraft even with full up elevator.

Any angle of attack may be insufficient to support the weight of the
airplane. All you need is a low enough airspeed.

I'm not sure your definition of stall, but this one works for me.

The definition of stall is quite different, and has already been discussed
in detail in this thread. Bottom line: you don't define stall based on the
lift the wing is generating. You *may* relate stall to (but not definite it
based on) the coefficient of lift, but to figure out actual lift you need to
account for airspeed, and stall has nothing to do with airspeed, not from a
definition point of view.

Yes, I'm using the elevator to bleed off airspeed until the wing will no
longer support the airplane.

That does not mean you are stalling the airplane. It just means your angle
of attack is insufficient to generate lift equal to the weight of the
airplane at your current airspeed.

Pete