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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... True, but only a few knots above in the Cessna's I've flown 150 - 182. Per certification rules, the stall warning must occur AT LEAST 5 knots prior to stall. In my experience, it commonly occurs with an even greater margin. I think 5 is considered "a few" by most, even hair-splitters such as yourself. If you keep smoothly pulling back the yoke, the airspeed will bleed into stall territory very shortly after you get a full stall horn. No, it won't. The airplane will settle onto the runway before you stall. You have to move the yoke pretty sharply to keep lift equal to weight at that airspeed. Yes, it does require that you accelerate the rearward movement of the yoke as the plane begins to settle in order to hit the stop at or slight before the tires touch. Again, I guess it depends on how you define stall. To me, a stall has occurred when I can't maintain altitude with the elevator full-up. That is the condition in which I attempt to land in normal conditions (light crosswind and lack of significant wind gusts). I've never flown a Cessna with an AOA indicator so I can't say if I've achieved the critical angle of attack prior to touchdown, but these have been called "full stall landings" since before I was born so that is good enough for me. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
... I think 5 is considered "a few" by most, even hair-splitters such as yourself. Each person has their own definition. If you want to split hairs, you need to use a more precise term. To me, "a few" is generally three, while I'd use "several" for five or more. In any case, the real question is how much before you stall will the horn go off. It goes off much longer than a second before you stall the wing. [...] but these have been called "full stall landings" since before I was born so that is good enough for me. As long as you understand that you are not actually stalling the airplane, that's fine. Use whatever inaccurate terminology you like. Pete |
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Peter Duniho wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... I think 5 is considered "a few" by most, even hair-splitters such as yourself. Each person has their own definition. If you want to split hairs, you need to use a more precise term. To me, "a few" is generally three, while I'd use "several" for five or more. If you check Websters it says a small number of units. Five is a small number. In any case, the real question is how much before you stall will the horn go off. It goes off much longer than a second before you stall the wing. [...] but these have been called "full stall landings" since before I was born so that is good enough for me. As long as you understand that you are not actually stalling the airplane, that's fine. Use whatever inaccurate terminology you like. I understand that I'm stalling the wing, not the airplane. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
... If you check Websters it says a small number of units. Five is a small number. My point is that "a few" is undefined with respect to a real number. If you want someone to interpret your statement of "a few" with other than THEIR definition, you need to be more specific. It is useless to come back later and redefine it for them. As long as you understand that you are not actually stalling the airplane, that's fine. Use whatever inaccurate terminology you like. I understand that I'm stalling the wing, not the airplane. Now you're just being an ass; "stalling the airplane" is the same as "stalling the wing". In any case, you are not stalling the wing either. Pete |
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