Thanks, America!

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Hope all of you across America (and overseas) are having a wonderful
Fourth
of July.



Why can't people call it by it's proper name. which is "Independence Day".

Is being independent so bad anymore?

BTW:

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence? They signed and they pledged their lives,
their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were
farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they
signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty
would be death if they were captured.

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before
they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons
serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of
the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships
swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to
pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his
family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his
family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty
was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton,
Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British
General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He
quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was
destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his
wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13
children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to
waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home
to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died
from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar
fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were
not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means
and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing
tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged:
"For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the
protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other,
our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books
never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War.
We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and
we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for
granted...we shouldn't.

Source Unknown

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence?

You really should check snopes.com before you post. This is only
partially true. Many errors in it.

I was up this morning for 2 hours over Manhattan . . . a spectacular
crystal clear day and a glorious flight. Hard NOT to be grateful for
the freedom of flight . . . Happy 4th to the NG readership!

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Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
Declaration of Independence?

You really should check snopes.com before you post.

WOW!! How profound!

This is only
partially true.

Not THAT much different, but you're right...sorta.

Many errors in it.

And such points as "Vandalizing and sacking are common during warfare"
really doesn't make a contradictory point, does it? Pointing out spelling
errors makes them seem lame.

Snopes makes it "living" on contradicting points. An example was the 19th
century 8th grade test in Kansas they said was bogus. When the original was
found, they refused to recant. OTOH, it was figured to be a test for the
TEACHERS, but why would a teacher need such knowledge unless to pass it to
their students. Still, though, they maintain it was FALSE.

You really should check snopes.com before you post.



WOW!! How profound!

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Sophomoric response.

Nothing "profound" in what I wrote, and not intended to be. Just
trying to point out that the stuff you get by chain emails isn't always
to be swallowed as factual and then passed along as if it is.

wrote in message
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You really should check snopes.com before you post.



WOW!! How profound!

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Sophomoric response.

Kiss my ass.


Nothing "profound" in what I wrote, and not intended to be. Just
trying to point out that the stuff you get by chain emails isn't always
to be swallowed as factual and then passed along as if it is.

Well, you might check your assumptions because I didn't get it through a
chain e-mail. I got it from a magazine several years ago.

So, as above.

You really should check snopes.com before you post.

WOW!! How profound!


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Sophomoric response.


Kiss my ass.=20

Geeze, Matt . . . how old are you? Fourteen?

wrote in message
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You really should check snopes.com before you post.

WOW!! How profound!

Was the gist of the article correct? I got it from a historical journal. It
was originally written in 1994 and placed on the internet in 1999. My file
date says July 1, 1994.

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Sophomoric response.
Kiss my ass.

Geeze, Matt . . . how old are you? Fourteen?

Well, how about a response like this:

Drucker: No Matt, that document has some flaws; see http://www.snopes.com,
etc.

First, I don't check out documents I've had for years, on snopes...for one
thing, snopes isn't entirely accurate, either (check the same document onf
truthorfiction.com)

Why don't you go find out how much of history is subject to debate.

Maybe some other website can tell you that. Strangley, your fanatical quet
for accuracy has suddenly died along with that inflated ego of yours.

Finally, I'm fifty...so go **** yourself.



Then get your inflated ego out of that tightass of yours.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Well, you might check your assumptions because I didn't get it through a
chain e-mail. I got it from a magazine several years ago.

You got it from "a magazine"? Was it called Chain Email Digest?

Seriously though, I'd be interested to know what magazine you rely on that
prints recycled urban legends without bothering to fact-check.

--Gary

Geesh it could have been CBS evening news!

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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
Well, you might check your assumptions because I didn't get it through a
chain e-mail. I got it from a magazine several years ago.

You got it from "a magazine"? Was it called Chain Email Digest?

Seriously though, I'd be interested to know what magazine you rely on that
prints recycled urban legends without bothering to fact-check.

--Gary