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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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At 6', 157# would give you a BMI of 21.3, which is right in the middle of
what the CDC designates as the normal range. To be underweight, you'd need
to weigh less than 137#.
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

IMHO, all that shows is how silly the whole BMI thing is.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, of course, but I simply cannot see
being 138 pounds and six feet tall as healthy. IMHO, that's heading into
anorexic territory.

IMHO, one of the problems with the BMI is that it relates weight with the
square of your height, not the cube. But of course, volume increases as the
cube, not the square (and weight is closely related to volume). So, the
taller you are, the skinnier you have to be, proportionally speaking, in
order to stay within the approved BMI range.

Few people would describe me as overly skinny anymore, but most would
(foolishly ) still call me slender, in spite of a few extra pounds around
the middle I've been carrying. Yet, according to the BMI calculation, I'm
well into "Overweight" territory at 26.2. For me to be smack in the middle
of the "Normal" range, I'd have to get my weight *below* my late teenage
weight, when I *was* downright skin and bones.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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At 6', 157# would give you a BMI of 21.3, which is right in the middle of
what the CDC designates as the normal range. To be underweight, you'd
need to weigh less than 137#.
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

IMHO, all that shows is how silly the whole BMI thing is.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, of course, but I simply cannot
see being 138 pounds and six feet tall as healthy. IMHO, that's heading
into anorexic territory.

IMHO, one of the problems with the BMI is that it relates weight with the
square of your height, not the cube.

Dunno. The CDC claims that their specified BMI ranges correlate with
mortality and morbidity. But I haven't reviewed the studies myself, so I
don't have an independent opinion on the question.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Dunno. The CDC claims that their specified BMI ranges correlate with
mortality and morbidity. But I haven't reviewed the studies myself, so I
don't have an independent opinion on the question.

Well, it has been suggested that a starvation diet leads to the longest
lifespan. In very simple creatures (eg worms) it can double their lifespan.
In the "higher" orders, the improvement is not so dramatic, but has still
been claimed to be measured.

So I suppose if your only goal is to maximize the length of your life,
starving yourself makes a lot of sense. I don't think that necessarily
means it's *healthy* to do so though. Quality of life is just as important
as length, if not more so.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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So I suppose if your only goal is to maximize the length of your life,
starving yourself makes a lot of sense. I don't think that necessarily
means it's *healthy* to do so though.

Well, they do claim to be looking at morbidity as well as mortality. But
again, I haven't looked at their methodology in any detail.

--Gary

Yesterday I happened to be listening to Wis. Public Radio and they were
interviewing a Doctor who worked for Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance in
Milwaukee. It is his job to develop risk tables for NML based upon many
factors.

His main problem with the CDC's catigorizations of underweight and
overweight based on BMI was that they had no "transition zone" before a
person was catagorized as being overweight. His thoughts are that when your
BMI is in the 25 to 27 range that you are in a transition phase and are not
as high risk as the CDC claims.

As his work includes many more variables than just weight, he also takes
into account these other factors when createing his tables. He mentioned
that just one other positive life factor, such as not smokeing, can lower an
overweight persons mortality rate to match say that of a smoker who was in
the normal BMI range.

http://www.drbobgleeson.com/ is his web site, I haven't read or bought any
of his material, I just noted that he was an interesting person to listen to
knowing that he worked for NML, a company who myself and many family members
have policies with.

Jim

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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His thoughts are that when your
BMI is in the 25 to 27 range that you are in a transition phase and are
not
as high risk as the CDC claims.

But how high a risk does the CDC claim? They're pretty explicit that BMI is
just one indicator and is not reliably diagnostic or prognostic by itself.

--Gary

Yesterday I happened to be listening to Wis. Public Radio

Ah, Wisconsin Public Radio. How I miss it!

Between Tom Clark and Jean Feracca (sp?) in the mornings, and "Whaddya Know"
on weekends, they really made my job(s) -- many of which involved extensive
time in the car -- more enjoyable.

Iowa Public Radio tries hard, and we underwrite the local station -- but
they just don't have the horsepower. Not enough population to keep the pay
high enough to retain talent, I guess.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Just finished listening to John Grisham's "The Broker" on Chapter A Day a
couple weeks ago. Pretty entertaining. Sometimes I get sick of hour after
hour of classic rock while I'm checking fields.

Whaddya Know is always fun, I get it on Saturday mornings while doing a more
extensive field tour. Then Car Talk comes on.

Some of their guests drive me crazy though. Some real whacko's. A guy the
other day wanted the maximum tax rate to be 90% with a maximum gross
earnings of 10 times the poverty level, anything earned above that would be
taxed at 100%. The host asked him why he'd give all that money to the
government when they always seem use it so inefficiently. The guest goes
into a 15 minute tirate about Bill Gates and how everthing he did was with
government money and that the taxpayers that paid for all his research
should be entitled to get their "investment" back from him. Ok. On the
other side of the spectrum, some guy called in wanting to close the borders
and shoot anybody that tried crossing. Dunno, but maybe he was East German.
That's when I re-discover all the other buttons on the radio.

What's weird is WPR is pretty liberal and Wis. Public Television is pretty
conservative. Balance maybe?

Jim

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ntcze.130425$_o.72620@attbi_s71...
Yesterday I happened to be listening to Wis. Public Radio

Ah, Wisconsin Public Radio. How I miss it!

Between Tom Clark and Jean Feracca (sp?) in the mornings, and "Whaddya
Know"
on weekends, they really made my job(s) -- many of which involved
extensive
time in the car -- more enjoyable.

Iowa Public Radio tries hard, and we underwrite the local station -- but
they just don't have the horsepower. Not enough population to keep the
pay
high enough to retain talent, I guess.

Record it on the internet, and listen to it in the car, later?
--
Jim in NC

("Peter Duniho" wrote)
Well, it has been suggested that a starvation diet leads to the longest
lifespan. In very simple creatures (eg worms) it can double their
lifespan. In the "higher" orders, the improvement is not so dramatic, but
has still been claimed to be measured.


Saw a show a while back ...found it.

http://www.pbs.org/safarchive/3_ask/...3_walford.html
Roy Walford as seen on Never Say Die: Eat Less - Live Longer

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...3/220758.shtml
He died. Drats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004May3.html
Seeking the Low-Calorie Fountain of Youth
(Severely Restricted Diets May Slow Aging Process)

I'm a sucker for this stuff - it sounds good to me!

I mean ...The science is "fascinating."


Montblack
I'm 193 in 'caloric intake years.'