Filing direct

I fly IFR out of Palo Alto and have never heard of the PYE1 arrival.
Where can I find it? Is it a high altitude thing? It doesn't seem to
be in the PAO section of my plates. Just curious.

greg

"John Harper" wrote in message news:1065480517.160531@sj-nntpcache-5...
There was a thread a while ago about filing direct, and the need to include
a fix
for each ARTCC boundary. Just thought I'd give my recent experience. I've
been flying up and down from CA to the North West a bit lately. The V route
from the Seattle area to the Bay Area is a horror. So when I came back from
Medford (ZSE) I just filed direct Point Reyes then the STAR for Palo Alto
(PYE1). I got some vectors for climbing (terrain to the South) then direct
PYE.

This weekend I went to the Seattle area. I filed direct Olympia direct. Once
I'd
been vectored out from under the jets coming into the Bay Area, I got direct
OLM.

This morning returning (from Renton), I filed direct PYE PYE1. My clearance
was SEA J1 BTG then as filed, but I got vectored out of the way of the jets
then direct PYE.

So, between Oakland and Seattle, three out of three. YMMV of course.

John

Aha! Great catch question. It's actually a SJC arrival, you mean you
didn't think to look there? There's a note somewhere on the back of
the (Jepp) plate that tells you to look under SJC for arrival. (My
instructor pulled this one on me when I was training, so fortunately I
was prepared).

John

"Greg" wrote in message
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I fly IFR out of Palo Alto and have never heard of the PYE1 arrival.
Where can I find it? Is it a high altitude thing? It doesn't seem to
be in the PAO section of my plates. Just curious.

greg

"John Harper" wrote in message
news:1065480517.160531@sj-nntpcache-5...
There was a thread a while ago about filing direct, and the need to
include
a fix
for each ARTCC boundary. Just thought I'd give my recent experience.
I've
been flying up and down from CA to the North West a bit lately. The V
route
from the Seattle area to the Bay Area is a horror. So when I came back
from
Medford (ZSE) I just filed direct Point Reyes then the STAR for Palo
Alto
(PYE1). I got some vectors for climbing (terrain to the South) then
direct
PYE.

This weekend I went to the Seattle area. I filed direct Olympia direct.
Once
I'd
been vectored out from under the jets coming into the Bay Area, I got
direct
OLM.

This morning returning (from Renton), I filed direct PYE PYE1. My
clearance
was SEA J1 BTG then as filed, but I got vectored out of the way of the
jets
then direct PYE.

So, between Oakland and Seattle, three out of three. YMMV of course.

John

Yeah, but if you use FAA charts, then all the arrivals are in the front and not listed by airport anyway. You have to cross-reference them in the table of contents. That way you avoid the hassles of Jepp plates :-)

John Harper wrote:



Aha! Great catch question. It's actually a SJC arrival, you mean you
didn't think to look there? There's a note somewhere on the back of
the (Jepp) plate that tells you to look under SJC for arrival. (My
instructor pulled this one on me when I was training, so fortunately I
was prepared).

John