Jim's EAA Platform '05

My first read on this when you said it was a coop was that you converted an
old chicken coop for a school. Cooperative. Got it the third time through
{;-)

I hope I've PULLED you over the edge. I found out a long time ago it is a
hell of a lot easier to get a rope to move by getting out in front and
pulling than pushing from the other end {;-)

Congrats on making the aviation thing happen in your classroom.

Jim



My son is starting, at the pre-k level, in a pre-k through 7 (with 8 to be
added shortly) this year. It's a coop, which means that parents are
involved at various levels.

I'm going to see what I can steal from your ideas for use w/in the school.

More, I think you've finally pushed this AOPA member over the edge of also
joining the EAA. I've always been a little put out by the E part, even
though I know plenty of EAA members that fly FAA certified. But you've
reminded me of the emphasis on education the EAA places, and that's
enough.

RST Engineering wrote:

My first read on this when you said it was a coop was that you converted
an
old chicken coop for a school. Cooperative. Got it the third time
through
{;-)

I'm not sure that there's *that* much of a distinction, but yes.

laugh

I hope I've PULLED you over the edge. I found out a long time ago it is a
hell of a lot easier to get a rope to move by getting out in front and
pulling than pushing from the other end {;-)

You mean "pull" like the rudder or elevator? I was thinking "push" like the
flaps.


Congrats on making the aviation thing happen in your classroom.

That's premature. You should be wishing me luck...and providing any
suggestions you might have as to how this should be done. Materials I can
either give to teachers or use to develop a little mini program I can embed
would be quite welcome.

I'm starting from scratch. For example, what about a contest for the
construction of paper airplanes? Winners (multiple metrics including
longest duration and greatest distance) get a flight. Would parents go
along (in either sense of the word {8^)?

If not, perhaps I can convince a local aviation museum, at which a friend
works, to donate some time on their F-something simulator.

I do have a fair collection of "age appropriate" books on aviation for my
son. I expect that this will continue. One of my favorites at the moment
is "I love planes". It gets one little detail *very* right: the boy
"speaking" in the story is at a ball game with his family. The audience in
few on that page is watching the game...all except the boy and his Mom (the
pilot in the family) who are looking at a nearby blimp.

- Andrew

I did that contest at Oshkosh about twenty years ago. A very brilliant
aeronautical engineer (who is the owner of Aero-Trim, Norm Smith) got the
award for best distance for wadding up the paper into a spitball and
launching it at a 45d for best distance and taking the same spitball and
launching it at near 90d for best time. Try it. Spitballs at low mach are
very efficient.

{;-)

Jim



I'm starting from scratch. For example, what about a contest for the
construction of paper airplanes? Winners (multiple metrics including
longest duration and greatest distance) get a flight. Would parents go
along (in either sense of the word {8^)?

RST Engineering wrote:

TryÂ*it.Â*Â*SpitballsÂ*atÂ*lowÂ*machÂ*are
very efficient.

Why not just wrap the paper around a rock? In a Fed Ex envelope.

I'm stuck. On one hand, I'd want to see that sort of thing prohibited from
a contest. On the other hand, one should certainly be rewarded for
thinking outside the box.

Laugh

- Andrew

Because the rules read: One piece of 20# bond typewriter/copier paper 8½ x
11" plus two pieces of "magic mending" tape not more than 1" wide and a
total of 2" long. That's all. No paperclips, rocks, or other materials.

Jim



Why not just wrap the paper around a rock? In a Fed Ex envelope.

I'm stuck. On one hand, I'd want to see that sort of thing prohibited
from
a contest. On the other hand, one should certainly be rewarded for
thinking outside the box.

RST Engineering wrote:

NoÂ*paperclips,Â*rocks,Â*orÂ*otherÂ*materials.

Hey! It would appear that saliva is precluded.

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:

Try it. Spitballs at low mach are
very efficient.

Why not just wrap the paper around a rock? In a Fed Ex envelope.

I'm stuck. On one hand, I'd want to see that sort of thing prohibited from
a contest. On the other hand, one should certainly be rewarded for
thinking outside the box.


Back in my high school physics class, we had a project where we had to
build something to hold one egg, which would be dropped out a 3rd-floor
window, and survive, with a budget of I think 99 cents. Everybody else
build these contraptions with strings and rubber bands, or parachutes
that were too small. I took a packet of gelatin, a Big Gulp cup from
7-11, and molded the egg in the middle. 39 cents. Made one hell of a
SPLAT when it landed but the egg didn't break. Cheapest one that
worked, so I got the prize.

-cwk.

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[snip]
Back in my high school physics class, we had a project where we had to
build something to hold one egg, which would be dropped out a 3rd-floor
window, and survive, with a budget of I think 99 cents. Everybody else
build these contraptions with strings and rubber bands, or parachutes
that were too small. I took a packet of gelatin, a Big Gulp cup from
7-11, and molded the egg in the middle. 39 cents. Made one hell of a
SPLAT when it landed but the egg didn't break. Cheapest one that
worked, so I got the prize.


Mine was similar: an empty medium size oatmeal container, a quart baggie
full of applesauce (with pressure release holes punched in it), a rock in
the bottom to right-side-up the container, some Wheaties as packing peanuts,
and my egg - cocooned in the applesauce bag. Guy on the school roof
"flipped" my oatmeal tube. That little egg didn't stand a chance hitting
upside-down.


Montblack

"Andrew Gideon" wrote

You mean "pull" like the rudder or elevator? I was thinking "push" like
the
flaps.

I was thinking "pushed", as in *out* the open door of an airplane, without a
'chute! g
--
Jim in NC