New Garmin 396

Jonathan Goodish wrote:

That all being said, Garmin produces a very good, polished navigation
system that is hard to beat--in my opinion, none of the PDA-based
software products does navigation as cleanly.

That's true, but I still want a feature available via the PDA route and not
via the Garmin route: a backup AI. But then I fly club airplanes with 430s
installed, so when I think "handheld GPS" I'm thinking "backup"...and I
want as much backup as possible.

- Andrew

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Andrew Gideon wrote:
That all being said, Garmin produces a very good, polished navigation
system that is hard to beat--in my opinion, none of the PDA-based
software products does navigation as cleanly.

That's true, but I still want a feature available via the PDA route and not
via the Garmin route: a backup AI. But then I fly club airplanes with 430s
installed, so when I think "handheld GPS" I'm thinking "backup"...and I
want as much backup as possible.


Honestly, if I had a 430/530 or other approach-certified GPS in my
panel, I don't know that I'd even invest in a hand held GPS. It might
be very nice to have your Garmin 396 interfaced with your 430/530,
GTX330, and SL30/SL40, but at some point I think the gadgetry reaches
the point of diminishing returns.



JKG

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
Honestly, if I had a 430/530 or other approach-certified GPS in my
panel, I don't know that I'd even invest in a hand held GPS. It might
be very nice to have your Garmin 396 interfaced with your 430/530,
GTX330, and SL30/SL40, but at some point I think the gadgetry reaches
the point of diminishing returns.

Garmin 396... WAAS capable
Garmin 430/530... WAAS ??? (someday. maybe.)

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john smith wrote:
Honestly, if I had a 430/530 or other approach-certified GPS in my
panel, I don't know that I'd even invest in a hand held GPS. It might
be very nice to have your Garmin 396 interfaced with your 430/530,
GTX330, and SL30/SL40, but at some point I think the gadgetry reaches
the point of diminishing returns.

Garmin 396... WAAS capable
Garmin 430/530... WAAS ??? (someday. maybe.)

Yes, I understand, which is one of the reasons that I DON'T have a 430
in my panel. I'm not sure how much WAAS buys you with a hand held.


JKG

Garmin 396... WAAS capable
Garmin 430/530... WAAS ??? (someday. maybe.)

Handheld = not IFR approved.
Panel mount GNS 430/530 allows VOR, GPS and ILS approaches.

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote

Handheld = not IFR approved.
Panel mount GNS 430/530 allows VOR, GPS and ILS approaches.

Hypothetical situation.

A guy is on an IFR cross country flight, in and out of IFR conditions. His
latest weather reports indicate that his destination has ceilings that might
be 1000 and 1/2 mile, but also might be better. An alternate within his
comfortable fuel range is mostly clear. His departure airport is also
mostly clear.

Halfway there, his IFR approved GPS suddenly craps out, but his 396 with XM
is doing great, and has plenty of power.

What should he do?
--
Jim in NC

Halfway there, his IFR approved GPS suddenly craps out, but his 396 with XM
is doing great, and has plenty of power.

What other IFR approved navigation equipment does he have?

If he has VOR, and there's a VOR approach at the destination, I see no
reason not to continue on and shoot the VOR approach with the IFR
certified VOR equipment on the aircraft, using the handheld GPS for
situational awareness.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote

What other IFR approved navigation equipment does he have?

If he has VOR, and there's a VOR approach at the destination, I see no
reason not to continue on and shoot the VOR approach with the IFR
certified VOR equipment on the aircraft, using the handheld GPS for
situational awareness.

His destination and all options only have GPS instrument approaches, or all
his other IFR instruments crapped out.

What he is thinking of doing, is not telling anyone that his other stuff
crapped out, and go ahead shooting a GPS approach to high minimums, and if
the weather does not let him decide early to go visual, go missed.
--
Jim in NC

The best solution is to fly to VFR.

If he still has a working com, an acceptable alternative is to fly an ASR
approach at the destination if that is available.

Using the handheld for an approach is acceptable only as a last resort of no
other options remain; that is not the case here since there is an available
alternate with clear weather.

--------------------
Richard Kaplan

www.flyimc.com

I have a GNS 430 plus Airmap 100. If the GNS 430 has a problem I have
a redundant GPS unit.

Ron Lee


Honestly, if I had a 430/530 or other approach-certified GPS in my
panel, I don't know that I'd even invest in a hand held GPS. It might
be very nice to have your Garmin 396 interfaced with your 430/530,
GTX330, and SL30/SL40, but at some point I think the gadgetry reaches
the point of diminishing returns.

JKG