Nimbus 4DT accident 31 July 2000 in Spain.

In article ,
"Bert Willing" wrote:

With all due respect from my side, I am well trained to aborted launches, to
high-speed passes below 20ft along a runway, and to circeling inverted.
However, each of these situations presents an elevated risk as the margin
for errors is reduced.

Now if you think that an aborted winch launch does not represent an elevated
risk - keep on dreaming.

You didn't say "elevated risk". You said "critical situation," which
means something completely different to "elevated risk."

You are now pretending you didn't say that for the sole purpose of
taking umbrage at my comments, which you would have me believe are
wrong.

They are not wrong, and I stand by my comments. Perhaps if you
stood by yours instead of redefining the language you used we'd be able
to walk away from this without any disagreement.

- mark



"Mark Newton" a écrit dans le message de
news: ...
In article ,
"Bert Willing" wrote:

I have seen (from the ground) quite a couple of critical situations
resulting from fatigued weak link breakage, and I prefer to watch angle
of
attack and speed, and pull the knob myself if necessary.

With all due respect, Bert, if a weak link breakage creates a "critical"
situation, then the pilot has a training issue which needs to be
resolved. Sounds like some cable break practice is in order.

A launch isn't supposed to be a hazardous maneuver. If there's -any-
stage during the launch where someone wouldn't be comfortable with
the cable breaking, they need to find an instructor and get some
remedial training.

From an elevated risk, you have critical situations more easily happening.
Being well trained for interruptions is to my mind mandatory for anybody who
wants to make winch launching.

--
Bert Willing

ASW20 "TW"


"Mark Newton" a écrit dans le message de
news: ...
In article ,
"Bert Willing" wrote:

With all due respect from my side, I am well trained to aborted launches,
to
high-speed passes below 20ft along a runway, and to circeling inverted.
However, each of these situations presents an elevated risk as the margin
for errors is reduced.

Now if you think that an aborted winch launch does not represent an
elevated
risk - keep on dreaming.

You didn't say "elevated risk". You said "critical situation," which
means something completely different to "elevated risk."

You are now pretending you didn't say that for the sole purpose of
taking umbrage at my comments, which you would have me believe are
wrong.

They are not wrong, and I stand by my comments. Perhaps if you
stood by yours instead of redefining the language you used we'd be able
to walk away from this without any disagreement.

- mark



"Mark Newton" a écrit dans le message de
news: ...
In article ,
"Bert Willing" wrote:

I have seen (from the ground) quite a couple of critical situations
resulting from fatigued weak link breakage, and I prefer to watch
angle
of
attack and speed, and pull the knob myself if necessary.

With all due respect, Bert, if a weak link breakage creates a
"critical"
situation, then the pilot has a training issue which needs to be
resolved. Sounds like some cable break practice is in order.

A launch isn't supposed to be a hazardous maneuver. If there's -any-
stage during the launch where someone wouldn't be comfortable with
the cable breaking, they need to find an instructor and get some
remedial training.