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![]() Don Stauffer wrote: Sport Pilot wrote: Don Stauffer wrote: Sport Pilot wrote: Completely wrong, the Otto cycle has nothing to do with four stroke engines. Don is right its not four cycle, I used it incorrectly. The Otto and Diesel cycles are actually refering to the thermodynamics chart of temperature pressure and volume, they invented their cycles on paper and books, the engines we use are only close approximations. The two stroke ignition engine uses the Otto cycle as it is has the four phases of intake, compression, power, and exhaust, and the pressure is not constant. The Diesel two stroke is a Diesel cycle because it also includes the same phases and the fuel burns at a fairly constant pressure. I guess I'd quibble with the statement that the Otto cycle has nothing to do with four-stroke engines- it was the first successful cycle to incorporate four strokes. yes, there are other four stroke cycles, but the Otto cycle is still by far the most common. There have been several other four-strokes, several two-strokes, at least on six stroke- I suspect several also. New IC engine designs are among the most numerous US patents. Just because something is patentable, of course, does not make it good or successful, and most of these patents were for approaches that offered insufficient advantages. BTW, as I understand the new Miller cycle, I don't consider it a truly new cycle- just a clever mod on the Otto. I don't consider the Otto cycle to require valve openings at closings at the top or bottom dead center, exactly. The confusion is that Otto invented the first four stroke engine and called it the Otto cycle, not because of thermodynamics but because he put it in a motorcycle. However the thermodynamic cycle can be reproduced with a two stroke engine. Its just that the intake and exhaust cycle's are much shorter. I am not sure what you mean by exhaust and intake "cycles". There is one cycle- the actions that the engine goes through before everything repeats. Do you mean the portions of the cycle during which the exhaust and intake take place- they definitely take less crankcase revolution angle. In the Otto cycle it is easy to break it down into four operations, each lasting one stroke. A two-stroke is more complicated, because it still has (existing, contemporary ones, do anyway) four seperate functions of intake, compression, combustion and exhaust, but have to do it in two strokes. Sorry for the confusion, the two stroke doesn't take a stroke for those functions so I used cycle, can't think of anything else to call it. |
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