Co-Pilot Needed (URGENT)

Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, said:
IFR_Pilot wrote:

Co-Pilot Needed

Urgent - for 12-day, long-range mission Departure tomorrow!
Space shuttle experience appreciated, but not necessary (will train).

Pay scale : $12.50/hour (no shuttle time)
Up to $18.00/hour (type rated and current).

Are meals included?

It's a piece of cake - you just go out and do a bunch of turns around the
hold waypoint (Earth) and then come back. Kind of a long EFC time,
though.

"Mission Control clears SMS to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up,
Hold Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."

That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

Marco Leon

"Blanche" wrote in message
...
"Mission Control clears SMS to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up,
Hold Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."




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Marco Leon wrote:
That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

Cancel IFR passing through FL600 on departure and request IFR clearance
prior to descending through FL600 on return. Watch the 250 knot below
10k airspeed restriction.

Marco Leon wrote:

That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

Marco Leon

"Blanche" wrote in message
...

"Mission Control clears SMS to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up,
Hold Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."

I sure would like to have a type certificate for a space shuttle!
Their IFR flight plan must be bizarre.

Stubby wrote:

Marco Leon wrote:

That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

I sure would like to have a type certificate for a space shuttle!
Their IFR flight plan must be bizarre.


Actually, the SMS does not have a type cert. It's officially
designated a rocket, not an aircraft. I got curious about this many
years ago and called Canaveral and talked with the head of air ops.
Delightful gentleman who graciously explained it during a lengthy
conversation.

There's more details for TTS (Titusville, which is the name for
NASA Shuttle Landing Facility) at

www.airnav.com/airport/KTTS

Then there's Patrick AFB at KXMR.

Interesting that the airport is "Open to the public" but has "- RSTD:
OFFL BUS ONLY. FOR PPR FONE C321-867-2100. AFLD UNATTENDED HOL." in the
Remarks section.


Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI


Blanche wrote:
Stubby wrote:

Marco Leon wrote:


That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

I sure would like to have a type certificate for a space shuttle!
Their IFR flight plan must be bizarre.



Actually, the SMS does not have a type cert. It's officially
designated a rocket, not an aircraft. I got curious about this many
years ago and called Canaveral and talked with the head of air ops.
Delightful gentleman who graciously explained it during a lengthy
conversation.

There's more details for TTS (Titusville, which is the name for
NASA Shuttle Landing Facility) at

www.airnav.com/airport/KTTS

Then there's Patrick AFB at KXMR.

On 7/12/2005 11:36, Stubby wrote:


Marco Leon wrote:

That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

Marco Leon

"Blanche" wrote in message
...

"Mission Control clears SMS to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up,
Hold Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."

I sure would like to have a type certificate for a space shuttle!
Their IFR flight plan must be bizarre.

The IFR flight plan is so you can play nice in the system with
everyone else. Given the Shuttle is the only vehicle in their
system, they don't have to play nice with anybody.

On the return flight, they're probably told:

"... if anyone gets in your airspace, give 'em the finger"

;-)

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student
Sacramento, CA

Mark Hansen wrote:
"... if anyone gets in your airspace, give 'em the finger"

Subject: History of the middle finger
Well, now, here's something I never knew before, and now that I know it,
I feel compelled to send it on to my more intelligent friends in the
hope that they, too, will feel edified.
Isn't history more fun when you know something about it?

Giving the Finger

Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory
over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured
English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to
draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable
of fighting in the future.

This famous weapon was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act
of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew" (or "pluck yew").

Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset
and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the
defeated French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! "PLUCK YEW!"

Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant
cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental
fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with! the
one-finger-salute!
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the
longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird."

And you thought yew knew everything!

john smith wrote:

Subject: History of the middle finger

Yet another urban legend:

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm

--
Peter
























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john smith wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
"... if anyone gets in your airspace, give 'em the finger"

Subject: History of the middle finger
Well, now, here's something I never knew before, and now that I know it,
I feel compelled to send it on to my more intelligent friends in the
hope that they, too, will feel edified.
Isn't history more fun when you know something about it?

Giving the Finger

Good try, but seems to be an urban legend:

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm