Co-Pilot Needed (URGENT)

Is there a website you can go to self-test for a sense of humor?

Good try, but seems to be an urban legend:

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm

No type certificate required for gov't owned/operated aircraft. Public
owned aircraft don't have the same FAA pilot requirements. This applies
to military as well. Any gov't agency may decide FAA type ratings are
required for their agency though.

Marco Leon wrote:
That actually brings up an interesting point. Does anyone know what
coordination needs to happen with the FAA? Are they even involved other than
clearing the airspace?

Marco Leon

There is a huge restricted airspace east of Canaveral. It's active for
several hours before the shuttle comes down. I believe the inner slice
is ground to FL600 and the outer slice is ground to infinite.

Basically, the shuttle never comes withing 25 miles of another aircraft
coming down.

"Blanche" wrote in message
...

"Mission Control clears SMS to Canaveral via thrust vectors, Up,
Hold Earth, right turns, expect further clearance in ten days."





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Jimmy B. wrote:
There is a huge restricted airspace east of Canaveral. It's active for
several hours before the shuttle comes down. I believe the inner slice
is ground to FL600 and the outer slice is ground to infinite.

I'm sure the distinction is very important to all of us who fly things
capable of getting above FL600 :-)

Calling the shuttle a "glider" is a bit of a stretch. It basically
comes straight down. Your Cessna in a red line power on nose dive could
never keep up with the rate of decent. There is the approach plate out
there for the space shuttle. As I recall, it turns base at about 30,000
feet. I'm sure it easily stays over 60,000 outside the Edwards
airspace.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
Calling the shuttle a "glider" is a bit of a stretch. It basically
comes straight down. Your Cessna in a red line power on nose dive could
never keep up with the rate of decent. There is the approach plate out
there for the space shuttle. As I recall, it turns base at about 30,000
feet. I'm sure it easily stays over 60,000 outside the Edwards
airspace.

-Robert


IIRC,

The Shuttle Landing Trainer is a clip-winged Gulfstream that is flown at or
slightly above gross weight and it glides like a brick.

Saw in interview with a former Shuttle astronaut (didn't catch his name,
sorry) on CNN today who said that, back in the day, he flew over 1,000
approaches in the SLT Gulfstream while prepping for a flight.

Jay B

In a previous article, "Jay Beckman" said:
The Shuttle Landing Trainer is a clip-winged Gulfstream that is flown at or
slightly above gross weight and it glides like a brick.

I was under the impression that the SLT flies with thrust reversers on.


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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "Jay Beckman" said:
The Shuttle Landing Trainer is a clip-winged Gulfstream that is flown at
or
slightly above gross weight and it glides like a brick.

I was under the impression that the SLT flies with thrust reversers on.

You are correct. I double checked and they do use the reversers in flight
to give the proper descent profile.

Jay B

"Jay Beckman" wrote:
The Shuttle Landing Trainer is a clip-winged Gulfstream that is flown at or
slightly above gross weight and it glides like a brick.

I read an article about that once. If memory serves, it's got more mods
than just cliped wings. The use reverse thrust on the engines in flight to
get the (lack of) glide characteristics they need.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message =
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"Jay Beckman" wrote:
The Shuttle Landing Trainer is a clip-winged Gulfstream that is flown =
at or=20
slightly above gross weight and it glides like a brick.
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I read an article about that once. If memory serves, it's got more =
mods=20
than just cliped wings. The use reverse thrust on the engines in =
flight to=20
get the (lack of) glide characteristics they need.

I don't think the G-II wings were clipped, but there is a pair of =
ventral fins
added under the fuselage to make lateral stability more like the =
shuttle's.
They use up to 90% thrust in reverse, and fly about a 20=BA glide slope,
with a 14000 fpm rate of descent.

There's a photograph of the Shuttle Training Aircraft in this good =
article:
http://www.aviationnow.com/content/ncof/lo_nfm05.htm

During the orbit prior to the shuttle's re-entry burn,
one of the other astronauts runs approach after approach,
starting from somewhere around FL300,
getting all the speed-brake settings just right for the existing wind =
profile,
so the shuttle pilot won't have to guess at much.
While the shuttle is undergoing re-entry, the G-II pilot will make
at least one more "proof" run to verify that all the settings are still =
satisfactory.
There would still be time to send up any needed final tweaks.