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Old July 12th 05, 09:45 PM
John Ousterhout
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Tina Marie wrote:
In article , pittss1c wrote:

A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?



About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie



Sean Tucker is incredibly skilled but that style of performance just
doesn't appeal to me as much as the Red Barons. I love to watch them.
I also love to watch the Aeroshell T-6 team. Both of those teams fly
fantastic formations gracefully and I'd watch them again and again.

I'm always interested when somebody does aerobatics in an aircraft
similar to one that I fly, so a performance in a Cessna 150 is something
I will stop to watch.

Last year at Oshkosh when the Masters of Disaster performed I had white
knuckles the entire time.

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Old July 12th 05, 10:02 PM
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("John Ousterhout" wrote)
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Last year at Oshkosh when the Masters of Disaster performed I had white
knuckles the entire time.



You too. I was drained after watching them ....great show!! :-)

Our favorite airshow at OSH last year, by a slim margin over Masters of
Disaster, was the aerial ballet by those two P-51's. That show was absolute
poetry. Very moving.


Montblack

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Old July 12th 05, 10:33 PM
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
oups.com...
How about we do away with all risk and sit around in a circle and look
at each other. Naw let's not.
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Kind of like here on USENET?


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Old July 12th 05, 11:44 PM
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Plus, the prop segments are a good break to hit the can, or get some
food.
Back in time for the jets.

JG

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Old July 13th 05, 12:50 AM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

"Denny" wrote in message
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Interesting bunch of responses, but nothing I have read so far induces
me to change my statement... Reread the first sentence of my original
post...
For those who suggest I am operating from lack of information, I have
been ground crew at internationally sanctioned aerobatic
competitions...

cheers ... denny



WOW!!!



Aerobatics performers are like bull riders. A goddamned stupid thing to
do, serves no useful purpose and you deserve what you get.


They serve a very real purpose. They keep the crowds out of the exhibits at
OSH which makes it much easier to get up close and personal with all those
wonderful aviation products.



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Old July 13th 05, 01:44 AM
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Well that's good to know anyway :-) Perhaps if you could be just a tad more
articulate in the future please? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))



I'll see what can be done. Hell, I've always admired those who can do
aerobatics. I have a different skill set but that doesn't mean I can't
appreciate skillful flying of whatever type.

I have no doubt my early attraction to aviation was intensified quite a bit by
watching good flying. Some of my fondest childhood memories were of Armed
Forces Day, when the base aircraft would be open for everybody to crawl through.
It was a real treat for kids. We had the Thunderbirds come through Lajes Field
in the Azores once and I can remember sitting up on the hillside looking down on
the F-100s as they flew *below* us.

Pretty damned neat stuff.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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Old July 13th 05, 01:48 AM
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Tina Marie wrote:
About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...



They were down in Rock Hill, SC a couple of months ago for a while. They'd taxi
out in the morning, do a formation takeoff, and then dissappear over to the
Chester, SC airport to practice their maneuvers. They spent the nights in Rock
Hill.

I had the pleasure of taxiing out right behind them one morning. There's
nothing like the sound of a Pratt & Whitney engine in the morning... unless it's
the sound of several of them in tandem.



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Old July 13th 05, 02:32 AM
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Hi Tina!

Then You must LOVE the Snowbirds!

They use the Tudor Trainers.......

Power is barely adequate to get a student into trouble...

Nowhere near "excessive"

Cheers!

Dave


On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:21:12 -0500, Tina Marie
wrote:

In article , pittss1c wrote:
A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?


About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie


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Old July 13th 05, 03:47 AM
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"pittss1c" wrote

I was at the performer party immediately afterwards.
Jimmy cracked the windshield durring that performance.
I bet he sold a lot of airplanes that day.


How did he crack the windshield?

Jimmy came to our Aviation Explorer's base camp, and gave a presentation /
question-answer session. Everyone really enjoyed him. But as someone said,
he really liked to live life on the edge.

I saw the first season of the jet powered biplane. All I could do (while
watching his show) was stand there with a big stupid grin on my face. It
was just so funny, strange, weird, and just not right, but I loved it!

Both will be missed.
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 13th 05, 03:50 AM
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"malabo" wrote

Offhand I can't remember a formation aerobatic team that hasn't had a
fatality, Blue Angels, Frecce Tricolore, French Connection,
Snowbirds... etc. so I'm saddened but not surprised.


Sad, yes.

Had you ever seen the routine that was being performed? (Masters of
Disaster, I think it was called)
--
Jim in NC

 




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