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Officials with the Federal Aviation Administration are investigating
the crash. The pilot, William Helwig Jr., 62, of Downers Grove, said he
had problems immediately after leaving the small airstrip that cuts
through the private Brookeridge subdivision near Darien.

"Upon takeoff, he began having engine difficulty and he tried to circle
back and land it, but he couldn't make it," said Robert Tinucci, chief
administrator with the Darien-Woodridge Fire Protection District. "We
were happy he was able to avoid any structures."

The plane went down just before noon and crashed across the street from
Darien-Woodridge's Fire Station No. 3 at 87th Street and Lemont Road.
Firefighters ran across the street and began tending to the victims,
officials said, and were quickly aided by personnel from other
firehouses and fire departments.

Some interesting notes:
-Fortunately, a station was within running distance, at the end of the
western "crash zone"
-No such luck for the eastern "crash zone" a wreck there requires FF to
travel 3-4 miles.
-D-W FD is not as generous in responding to aid another FD, as I
witnessed this
week with a car fire in a Cub Foods parking lot, a backup fire engine
had
to travel 3 miles, when the DWFD Mega-HQ is 1 mile east.

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Officials with the Federal Aviation Administration are investigating
the crash. The pilot, William Helwig Jr., 62, of Downers Grove, said he
had problems immediately after leaving the small airstrip that cuts
through the private Brookeridge subdivision near Darien.

"Upon takeoff, he began having engine difficulty and he tried to circle
back and land it, but he couldn't make it," said Robert Tinucci, chief
administrator with the Darien-Woodridge Fire Protection District. "We
were happy he was able to avoid any structures."

The plane went down just before noon and crashed across the street from
Darien-Woodridge's Fire Station No. 3 at 87th Street and Lemont Road.
Firefighters ran across the street and began tending to the victims,
officials said, and were quickly aided by personnel from other
firehouses and fire departments.

Some interesting notes:
-Fortunately, a station was within running distance, at the end of the
western "crash zone"
-No such luck for the eastern "crash zone" a wreck there requires FF to
travel 3-4 miles.
-D-W FD is not as generous in responding to aid another FD, as I
witnessed this
week with a car fire in a Cub Foods parking lot, a backup fire engine
had
to travel 3 miles, when the DWFD Mega-HQ is 1 mile east.

What in hell is a "crash zone?" The only reference to "crash zones"
around airports has been from ignoramuses.

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:

What in hell is a "crash zone?"

A crash zone is what they call my touchdown point.

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
Orval Fairbairn wrote:

What in hell is a "crash zone?"

A crash zone is what they call my touchdown point.

- Andrew

Whatever the official term is for the buffer acreage at the
ends of the runway. This may be filled by houses, trees, etc.

JG

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Andrew Gideon wrote:
Orval Fairbairn wrote:

What in hell is a "crash zone?"

A crash zone is what they call my touchdown point.

- Andrew

Whatever the official term is for the buffer acreage at the
ends of the runway. This may be filled by houses, trees, etc.

JG


You really are a moron. If there is an official buffer acreage it certainly
isn't filled with houses.

In article rsABe.40273$DC2.16013@okepread01,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:

You really are a moron. If there is an official buffer acreage it certainly
isn't filled with houses.

don't confuse the poor boy with facts.

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

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What in hell is a "crash zone?"


A crash zone is what they call my touchdown point.


Whatever the official term is for the buffer acreage at the
ends of the runway. This may be filled by houses, trees, etc.


How can it be considered a buffer if it is filled by houses, trees, etc?

("Steven P. McNicoll" wrote)
How can it be considered a buffer if it is filled by houses, trees, etc?


(FCM) Flying Cloud Airport - south/west of Minneapolis - one of the Reliever
Airports for MSP.

Just got off the phone with Joe Harris - Airport Manager for both FCM and my
local airport ANE.

We talked about the story (2 years ago) in the Mpls Star-Tribune newspaper
about MAC's (Metropolitan Airport Commission) auctioning of (10?) homes next
to Flying Cloud Airport (FCM)

Homes were in the (1/2 mile long) "Runway Protection Area/Zone - B."
RPZ - "A" means clear of homes, structures, trees, etc.

Harris said FCM's "Clear Zone(?)" requirements come from a combination of
FAA,
MNDot, and the Twin Cities "Met(troplitan) Council" rules and regulations.
All overlapping.

MAC bought the homes in 2000 with an eye on future runway expansion.
(Putting people in those houses who can't complain in the future was one
goal - one family decided to stay put and did not sell to MAC.)

MAC auctioned off the houses in 2003. These were beautiful 1/2 acre,
3/4 acre, 1 acre, and some 2 acre lots... some homes with tennis courts.
Homes
were mostly 1960's style. One had a nice tennis court.

I was forbidden by my gal from bidding in 2003! Longer commute for her.
Drat. I would have come in too low anyway - homes went for 225K - 300+K. I
wanted the nice rambler on 2 (wooded!!) acres. Wanted it for 185K. Doh!

The new owners are not allowed to do any extra things to attract birds, have
bee hives, or grow tall trees, etc. Many property improvements need prior
approval from MAC, but MAC is flexible Joe Harris said.

BTW, MSP has Runway Protection Zone (issues) for it's 17/35 runway extension
project. It's called the Mall of America :-)


Montblack

Montblack wrote:

The new owners are not allowed to do any extra things to attract birds,
have bee hives, or grow tall trees, etc.

How can they be "not allowed" to have bee hives? As fast as I kill the
damned things, they return. I wish they were outlawed. They I could get a
cop to ticket them or something.

Perhaps I can get my town to cite the hives for violating zoning laws?

Laugh

- Andrew

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Some interesting notes:
-Fortunately, a station was within running distance, at the end of the
western "crash zone"


What's a "crash zone"?