faulty fuel sensor - oh puleeze

S. wrote:


Why so much redundancy ? ; the cost of scrubbing the launch must have been
enormous.

As is the percieved cost of another failure. Nobody wants to be the one
who says "Go" and then something bad happens.

Dave

As a general rule among bureaucrats, you can never be faulted for
saying, NO....

Now, having made this insightful contribution, I wll say that the
perception among NASA is that losing another crew will be the end of
NASA as we/they know it... No manager in NASA is going to voluntarily
be the fall guy who says, "Ahhh what the hell, launch it!"......
Understandable...

A perception problem was created by NASA when they worked hard for
decades to foster the belief that NASA is so good that launching to
orbit is just routine... Sitting on top of a half million pounds of
explosives, then igniting a 'controlled explosion' in a container just
below the tanks of explosives, is never going to be routine... Nor is
slamming into the atmosphere at Mach 17.5 and having the leading edges
instantly hit 3,000 F...

But, I would much rather be an astronaut who depends upon NASA
engineers to launch his tender body, than have been a cosmonaut under
the USSR's space program... Look up the available footage of some of
their more spectacular failures...

denny

Denny wrote:


But, I would much rather be an astronaut who depends upon NASA
engineers to launch his tender body, than have been a cosmonaut under
the USSR's space program... Look up the available footage of some of
their more spectacular failures...

denny

I want to say they have a body count of over 100 with regards to their
early space program.

Dave

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Denny wrote:


But, I would much rather be an astronaut who depends upon NASA
engineers to launch his tender body, than have been a cosmonaut under
the USSR's space program... Look up the available footage of some of
their more spectacular failures...

denny

I want to say they have a body count of over 100 with regards to their
early space program.


Where did you get that number?

Icebound wrote:


Where did you get that number?


One of the discovery channel programs on the soviet space program, which
I have not independently verified.

Dave

"Dave S" wrote in message
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Icebound wrote:


Where did you get that number?


One of the discovery channel programs on the soviet space program, which I
have not independently verified.



http://www.jamesoberg.com/

James Oberg gives a pretty detailed account of Soviet failures and myths. I
have not been able to find an actual "number" in his on-line stuff (buy the
books, I guess), but the implication is that some rumors of USSR space
deaths are overblown... and he also states that some is simply not known.

Now since he often appears on Discovery, so that "100" figure may be his (or
NOT), but his chapter at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html
does not seem to imply a number anywhere near that.

"Icebound" wrote in
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Icebound wrote:


Where did you get that number?


One of the discovery channel programs on the soviet space program,
which I have not independently verified.



http://www.jamesoberg.com/

James Oberg gives a pretty detailed account of Soviet failures and
myths. I have not been able to find an actual "number" in his on-line
stuff (buy the books, I guess), but the implication is that some rumors
of USSR space deaths are overblown... and he also states that some is
simply not known.

Now since he often appears on Discovery, so that "100" figure may be his
(or NOT), but his chapter at:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/usd10.html
does not seem to imply a number anywhere near that.

Try this article of his....
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/therophe.htm

Brian
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Dave wrote:
Denny wrote:


But, I would much rather be an astronaut who depends upon NASA
engineers to launch his tender body, than have been a cosmonaut under
the USSR's space program... Look up the available footage of some of
their more spectacular failures...

denny

I want to say they have a body count of over 100 with regards to their
early space program.

I believe that number includes ground fatalities.

Hilton

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:57:50 GMT, Dave S
wrote:



S. wrote:


Why so much redundancy ? ; the cost of scrubbing the launch must have been
enormous.

As is the percieved cost of another failure. Nobody wants to be the one
who says "Go" and then something bad happens.

Exactly. If there is another shuttle disaster, the program may not
ever recover.