Renter Insurance

Sure they will. I have been sued by insurance companies twice. I won both
times. The problem is most people cave in because they don't take the time
to actually figure out the law. Only a moron lets himself be conquered by an
insurance company.
One time it would of been cheaper to settle. I learned from that and the
next time they paid. I go for the juggler right from the start. Let them
know you will fight to the end.
Let me know how the FBO's insurance can come after you. I thought the reason
they had it was exactly for that reason.
Its sounds like you need to understand how things work. If I ask you for
money it doesn't mean you owe it to me.
Please don't call me a troll. I can only tell you my experiences. I had a
decent size company and dealing with insurance is one of the biggest
expenses. You have workers comp, health, product liability, building
insurance, car insurance, death and I am sure I am forgetting a few.
I also was not asking any question just stating my opinion and that's all it
is my opinion. If you have never owned your own company you have no way of
knowing how things work. I can also tell you this you can be dead right and
still lose in court or vice a versa it all comes down to the judge.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
I'm out of this debate, I smell a troll . Aluckyguess - go and lookup what
subjugation actually means, and then come back asking sensible, well
informed questions. The insurance company underwriting the FBO's plane
WILL come after you in most cases.

- Barney

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Do you really think the insurance co give a flying sh1t about "bad word
of mouth"? Your'e making a mistake in believing the insurance company
have any morals or scruples. I know of someone who did not have renters
insurance, landed short, took out some runwany end identifier lights,
prop strike, engine teardown and new landing gear. The costs were well
north of $40K, and they came after that person for every penny. Had to
sell car and house to pay it. He thought he was insured. To the OP, look
at AOPA. I think I pay about $200 PA, for the basic deal.

So no one had any insurance on the plane? Something doesnt sound right.
The owner of the plane has some liabiltiy. Again it sounds like this guy
needed a good lawyer.
Sounds like the FBO didnt pay their policy they had no money and went
after the pilot.
- Barney

"TaxSrv" wrote in message
...
"Richard Kaplan" wrote:
Has that ever happened in the case where an uninsured renter pilot
with no money (orig poster) will be sued?

Being low on cash is not the same as having zero assets or zero net
worth
and no anticipated future cashflow source.

Agree there, but if someone does $5,000 damage to an airframe, that
amount won't go far at all to pursue it to see if collection is even
practically possible, much less establish the facts of the case. Can
you answer my question about the ins co's business sense, for a mere
$5K minus costs, spreading such ill will in the pilot community over
the matter?

Fred F.

Congratulations, you are of course completly right, no one but an idiot
should pay for renters insurance it's a scam, sham and a general rip-off, we
can always win every case against insurance company paid lawyers. As I said
before, go look up the rules of subjugation and then come back with sensible
questions and/or comments. You will have answered your own question "Let me
know how the FBO's insurance can come after you." Don't bother to reply as I
won't read, nor do, I don't really care. I do know what kind of crap goes on
in the real world, as I have seen it, get out and fly some more, maybe
you'll find out how good the FBO's insurance is. Of course you may own your
own plane by now.... I'm sorry if I called you a troll, but you know what
they say; if it smells, walks and talks like one, then it probably is.

- Barney

aluckyguess - congratulations again, you just made a clunking noise as your
handle hit my plunk file


"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
news
Sure they will. I have been sued by insurance companies twice. I won both
times. The problem is most people cave in because they don't take the time
to actually figure out the law. Only a moron lets himself be conquered by
an insurance company.
One time it would of been cheaper to settle. I learned from that and the
next time they paid. I go for the juggler right from the start. Let them
know you will fight to the end.
Let me know how the FBO's insurance can come after you. I thought the
reason they had it was exactly for that reason.
Its sounds like you need to understand how things work. If I ask you for
money it doesn't mean you owe it to me.
Please don't call me a troll. I can only tell you my experiences. I had a
decent size company and dealing with insurance is one of the biggest
expenses. You have workers comp, health, product liability, building
insurance, car insurance, death and I am sure I am forgetting a few.
I also was not asking any question just stating my opinion and that's all
it is my opinion. If you have never owned your own company you have no way
of knowing how things work. I can also tell you this you can be dead right
and still lose in court or vice a versa it all comes down to the judge.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
I'm out of this debate, I smell a troll . Aluckyguess - go and lookup
what subjugation actually means, and then come back asking sensible, well
informed questions. The insurance company underwriting the FBO's plane
WILL come after you in most cases.

- Barney

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Do you really think the insurance co give a flying sh1t about "bad word
of mouth"? Your'e making a mistake in believing the insurance company
have any morals or scruples. I know of someone who did not have renters
insurance, landed short, took out some runwany end identifier lights,
prop strike, engine teardown and new landing gear. The costs were well
north of $40K, and they came after that person for every penny. Had to
sell car and house to pay it. He thought he was insured. To the OP,
look at AOPA. I think I pay about $200 PA, for the basic deal.

So no one had any insurance on the plane? Something doesnt sound right.
The owner of the plane has some liabiltiy. Again it sounds like this guy
needed a good lawyer.
Sounds like the FBO didnt pay their policy they had no money and went
after the pilot.
- Barney

"TaxSrv" wrote in message
...
"Richard Kaplan" wrote:
Has that ever happened in the case where an uninsured renter pilot
with no money (orig poster) will be sued?

Being low on cash is not the same as having zero assets or zero net
worth
and no anticipated future cashflow source.

Agree there, but if someone does $5,000 damage to an airframe, that
amount won't go far at all to pursue it to see if collection is even
practically possible, much less establish the facts of the case. Can
you answer my question about the ins co's business sense, for a mere
$5K minus costs, spreading such ill will in the pilot community over
the matter?

Fred F.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Congratulations, you are of course completly right, no one but an idiot
should pay for renters insurance it's a scam, sham and a general rip-off,
we can always win every case against insurance company paid lawyers. As I
said before, go look up the rules of subjugation

You keep saying "subjugation", but you mean "subrogation".

--Gary

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Congratulations, you are of course completly right, no one but an idiot
should pay for renters insurance it's a scam, sham and a general rip-off,
we can always win every case against insurance company paid lawyers. As I
said

Thats not what I said, but you only hear what you wnat to hear.

before, go look up the rules of subjugation and then come back with
sensible questions and/or comments. You will have answered your own
question "Let

I think you need to look it up. I take it you took it in the shorts without
even trying to defend yourself.

know how the FBO's insurance can come after you." Don't bother to reply as
I won't read, nor do, I don't really care. I do know what kind of crap
goes on in the real world, as I have seen it, get out and fly some more,
maybe you'll find out how good the FBO's insurance is. Of course you may
own your own plane by now.... I'm sorry if I called you a troll, but you
know what they say; if it smells, walks and talks like one, then it
probably is.

- Barney

aluckyguess - congratulations again, you just made a clunking noise as
your handle hit my plunk file

Again you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink. Its the same
with an ASS.

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
news
Sure they will. I have been sued by insurance companies twice. I won both
times. The problem is most people cave in because they don't take the
time to actually figure out the law. Only a moron lets himself be
conquered by an insurance company.
One time it would of been cheaper to settle. I learned from that and the
next time they paid. I go for the juggler right from the start. Let them
know you will fight to the end.
Let me know how the FBO's insurance can come after you. I thought the
reason they had it was exactly for that reason.
Its sounds like you need to understand how things work. If I ask you for
money it doesn't mean you owe it to me.
Please don't call me a troll. I can only tell you my experiences. I had
a decent size company and dealing with insurance is one of the biggest
expenses. You have workers comp, health, product liability, building
insurance, car insurance, death and I am sure I am forgetting a few.
I also was not asking any question just stating my opinion and that's all
it is my opinion. If you have never owned your own company you have no
way of knowing how things work. I can also tell you this you can be dead
right and still lose in court or vice a versa it all comes down to the
judge.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
I'm out of this debate, I smell a troll . Aluckyguess - go and lookup
what subjugation actually means, and then come back asking sensible,
well informed questions. The insurance company underwriting the FBO's
plane WILL come after you in most cases.

- Barney

"Aluckyguess" wrote in message
...

"Barney Rubble" wrote in message
...
Do you really think the insurance co give a flying sh1t about "bad
word of mouth"? Your'e making a mistake in believing the insurance
company have any morals or scruples. I know of someone who did not
have renters insurance, landed short, took out some runwany end
identifier lights, prop strike, engine teardown and new landing gear.
The costs were well north of $40K, and they came after that person for
every penny. Had to sell car and house to pay it. He thought he was
insured. To the OP, look at AOPA. I think I pay about $200 PA, for the
basic deal.

So no one had any insurance on the plane? Something doesnt sound right.
The owner of the plane has some liabiltiy. Again it sounds like this
guy needed a good lawyer.
Sounds like the FBO didnt pay their policy they had no money and went
after the pilot.
- Barney

"TaxSrv" wrote in message
...
"Richard Kaplan" wrote:
Has that ever happened in the case where an uninsured renter pilot
with no money (orig poster) will be sued?

Being low on cash is not the same as having zero assets or zero net
worth
and no anticipated future cashflow source.

Agree there, but if someone does $5,000 damage to an airframe, that
amount won't go far at all to pursue it to see if collection is even
practically possible, much less establish the facts of the case. Can
you answer my question about the ins co's business sense, for a mere
$5K minus costs, spreading such ill will in the pilot community over
the matter?

Fred F.