"Refusing to Handle You"

Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
john smith wrote:


Oops!
I guess I got my code squawks backwards.
Should have typed 7700 for one-minute, then 7600 for the remainder of
the flight.


If you want to squawk "Lost Comm", just set 7600 and leave it there.

The "7700 for one minute, then 7600" procedure predates me, but I
understand that a long time ago (like 15 or 20 years), that was how it was
done. No longer the case.

....and I suppose I should stop flying triangular patterns as well.
Never could remember if it was clockwise for no receiver or the ohter
way..

Ron Natalie wrote:
Roy Smith wrote:

In article ,
john smith wrote:


Oops!
I guess I got my code squawks backwards.
Should have typed 7700 for one-minute, then 7600 for the remainder of
the flight.



If you want to squawk "Lost Comm", just set 7600 and leave it there.

The "7700 for one minute, then 7600" procedure predates me, but I
understand that a long time ago (like 15 or 20 years), that was how it
was done. No longer the case.


...and I suppose I should stop flying triangular patterns as well. Never
could remember if it was clockwise for no receiver or the ohter
way..

Heh heh.

Ron
R for receiver only
Al

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
john smith wrote:


Oops!
I guess I got my code squawks backwards.
Should have typed 7700 for one-minute, then 7600 for the remainder of the
flight.


If you want to squawk "Lost Comm", just set 7600 and leave it there.

The "7700 for one minute, then 7600" procedure predates me, but I
understand that a long time ago (like 15 or 20 years), that was how it
was done. No longer the case.

...and I suppose I should stop flying triangular patterns as well. Never
could remember if it was clockwise for no receiver or the ohter
way..

Steve do they still use PDR, PDAR, and PARs?.
Al

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Shouldn't that be taken into consideration by ATC prior to issuance of
the clearance?


They probably did. Remember, they initially issued a different route
which was declined due to weather. Perhaps they then issued the route
through the TRACON hoping they could sell it to approach.

"Allan9" wrote in message
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Steve do they still use PDR, PDAR, and PARs?.


If by "they" you mean US ATC in general, the answer is yes. I'm not
familiar with the DC area specifically.

They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.
Al

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Allan9" wrote in message
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Steve do they still use PDR, PDAR, and PARs?.


If by "they" you mean US ATC in general, the answer is yes. I'm not
familiar with the DC area specifically.

"Allan9" wrote in message
. ..

They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.


They exist for busy terminal airspace, most terminal airspace does without
them.

Green Bay have them?
Al

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Allan9" wrote in message
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They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.


They exist for busy terminal airspace, most terminal airspace does without
them.

"Allan9" wrote in message
. ..

Green Bay have them?


Nope.