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Old August 1st 05, 03:56 AM
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They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.
Al

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Steve do they still use PDR, PDAR, and PARs?.


If by "they" you mean US ATC in general, the answer is yes. I'm not
familiar with the DC area specifically.



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Old August 1st 05, 06:36 AM
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"Allan9" wrote in message
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They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.


They exist for busy terminal airspace, most terminal airspace does without
them.


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Old August 1st 05, 03:53 PM
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Green Bay have them?
Al

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They being the CONUS ARTCC
PDR = Preferential Departure Route
PDAR = Preferential DEparture Arrival Route
PAR = Preferential Arrival Route

Centers have them for most all terminal airspace.


They exist for busy terminal airspace, most terminal airspace does without
them.



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Old August 1st 05, 03:58 PM
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Green Bay have them?


Nope.


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Old August 2nd 05, 12:50 AM
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My sneaking hunch would be your southbounds are affected by MKE's
Al

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Green Bay have them?


Nope.



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Old August 2nd 05, 04:21 AM
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My sneaking hunch would be your southbounds are affected by MKE's


Yes, MKE has preferential routes. As do many other terminals which aircraft
may be cleared to from GRB. But GRB has none.


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Old August 2nd 05, 04:09 PM
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Just to make certain we are talking apples and apples I am not referring to
the published (AIM) for one, Preferential Routings. I am speaking to the
ARTCC (ZAU or ZMP) internal computer routings. That'll be what comes out
between the plus signs.
Al

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Allan9" wrote in message
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My sneaking hunch would be your southbounds are affected by MKE's


Yes, MKE has preferential routes. As do many other terminals which
aircraft may be cleared to from GRB. But GRB has none.



 




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