No SID in clearance, fly it anyway?

"Icebound" wrote in message

Consumers do not make wise choices. They do not care a damn about
competance at all... They care about the lowest short-term cost. Hence
they opt for the 2-dollar-per-day offshore wages and no pollution
controls.

That's ridiculous. If consumers didn't care about $2 wages we wouldn't
a minimum wage law. If consumers didn't care about clean air/water/etc
we wouldn't have all these pollution control laws.

Newps wrote:



"Icebound" wrote in message


Consumers do not make wise choices. They do not care a damn about
competance at all... They care about the lowest short-term cost. Hence
they opt for the 2-dollar-per-day offshore wages and no pollution
controls.


That's ridiculous. If consumers didn't care about $2 wages we wouldn't
a minimum wage law. If consumers didn't care about clean air/water/etc
we wouldn't have all these pollution control laws.


Those things didn't come from consumers. They came grudgingly at the
initiative of slightly progressive politicians under pressure from
activists and scientists.

When those same wage-earners become Consumers, they continue to buy from
certain large, dominant chains who have tons of suppliers in the
"emerging-economy" countries with questionable human rights and
environmental records and low wages, but thats a whole other NG.







--
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the
courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
--- Serenity Prayer

"Icebound" wrote in message
ogers.com...
Newps wrote:



"Icebound" wrote in message


Consumers do not make wise choices. They do not care a damn about
competance at all... They care about the lowest short-term cost.
Hence
they opt for the 2-dollar-per-day offshore wages and no pollution
controls.


That's ridiculous. If consumers didn't care about $2 wages we wouldn't
a minimum wage law. If consumers didn't care about clean air/water/etc
we wouldn't have all these pollution control laws.


Those things didn't come from consumers. They came grudgingly at the
initiative of slightly progressive politicians under pressure from
activists and scientists.

Cite?


When those same wage-earners become Consumers, they continue to buy from
certain large, dominant chains who have tons of suppliers in the
"emerging-economy" countries with questionable human rights and
environmental records and low wages, but thats a whole other NG.

Cite?

Tom S. wrote:
"Icebound" wrote in message
ogers.com...



When those same wage-earners become Consumers, they continue to buy from
certain large, dominant chains who have tons of suppliers in the
"emerging-economy" countries with questionable human rights and
environmental records and low wages, but thats a whole other NG.


Cite?



From the business pages:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=969048863851

or

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C34921976

some quotes:

"And so the giant Electronic Data Systems Corp., founded by Ross Perot
but no longer run by that noisy patriot, now recruits $1.25-an-hour tech
workers in India and sheds their $10-an-hour counterparts in EDS's home
state of Texas.

Wall Street brokerages including Morgan Stanley and J.P. Morgan Chase &
Co. are shifting from New York to India the ground-floor stock-research
jobs that traditionally lead to plum analyst assignments. Both India and
China are already well-known to recruiters from Intel Corp. and
Microsoft Corp.

Levi Strauss & Co. has just announced the closing of its remaining four
North American plants, including three in Canada, and will shift all
production to Asia and Latin America."

"Icebound" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Tom S. wrote:
"Icebound" wrote in message
ogers.com...



When those same wage-earners become Consumers, they continue to buy from
certain large, dominant chains who have tons of suppliers in the
"emerging-economy" countries with questionable human rights and
environmental records and low wages, but thats a whole other NG.


Cite?



From the business pages:


http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1066428608401&call_pag eid=968350072197&col=969048863851

What a joke! Now that's funny!!!

When you learn something other than what they shoved down your face in
school, we'll discuss it.

One person asked if someone was listening to talk radio, I guess this guy is
listening to NPR!

"Tom S." wrote in message ...



From the business pages:



http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1066428608401&call_pag eid=968350072197&col=969048863851

A spurious appears in the above:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=969048863851

Icebound wrote:

Those things didn't come from consumers. They came grudgingly at the
initiative of slightly progressive politicians under pressure from
activists and scientists.

Nope, sorry. A few tree huggers don't have the political power
necessary to force down all these changes.

"Newps" wrote in message
news:8yOqb.99886$275.275845@attbi_s53...


Icebound wrote:

Those things didn't come from consumers. They came grudgingly at the
initiative of slightly progressive politicians under pressure from
activists and scientists.

Nope, sorry. A few tree huggers don't have the political power
necessary to force down all these changes.

Bull! See the fires in California last couple of weeks, as well as the
Yellowstone fire a few years back, the fires in Colorado and Arizona last
year...

These are the same "progressives" that cleaned up the air and water
everywhere but in the areas they control themselves. The same ones that
Rachel Carlson gave the impetus to that still kills tens of millions a year.

"Newps" wrote in message
news:CsEqb.131854$HS4.1048032@attbi_s01...

That's ridiculous. If consumers didn't care about $2 wages we wouldn't
a minimum wage law. If consumers didn't care about clean air/water/etc
we wouldn't have all these pollution control laws.

People stopped buying detergents with Phosphates long before the government
banned them.

Are these the same consumers that leave fast food wrappers and other trash
blowing around?