Oshkosh 2005 pictures up

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:18:31 -0500, John T wrote:

One guy took the rolled up American flag and tossed it on the ground...I
saw it happened and I blew up! I yelled at the guy to pick it up, but I
guess he didn't understand me so I got out and picked up the flag and
leaned it against some other stuff off the ground, with a really angry
expression on my face. I think they got the message.

No. One does not get it (not beeing an American) unless you read it or have
been told about this "our flag is so sacred" thingy [1]. I also have a US
flag somewhere ... I stowed it away someplace ... no idea where it
currently is - but it really doesn't matter. It is only a piece of fabric -
for me. YMMV, I guess.

#m

[1] the first time I read about all those rules I had a good laugh. But
this is only me. I respect those respecting the rules. But don't expect
everybody else respecting those rules. It is a law only in your country.

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most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we
come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein

Martin Hotze wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:18:31 -0500, John T wrote:

One guy took the rolled up American flag and tossed it on the ground...I
saw it happened and I blew up! I yelled at the guy to pick it up, but I
guess he didn't understand me so I got out and picked up the flag and
leaned it against some other stuff off the ground, with a really angry
expression on my face. I think they got the message.

No. One does not get it (not beeing an American) unless you read it or have
been told about this "our flag is so sacred" thingy [1]. I also have a US
flag somewhere ... I stowed it away someplace ... no idea where it
currently is - but it really doesn't matter. It is only a piece of fabric -
for me. YMMV, I guess.

Just a reminder, there are no "laws" regarding the US flag, only
traditions and conventions. I think it was the Boy Scouts that
published a booklet many years ago that contains the "rules" of
displaying the US Flag. Should the current US CongressCritters suceed
this year, there will be a "law" concerning the US Flag. But, IIRC,
it will only relate to burning the flag in protest. Which is hysterically
funny, because the only "approved in the rules" method of destroying
a worn-out US flag is by burning.

No, there's no logic.

On 13 Aug 2005 15:22:31 GMT, Blanche wrote:

Just a reminder, there are no "laws" regarding the US flag, only
traditions and conventions.

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/us...01_4_10_1.html

oh well.

#m
--
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed,
most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we
come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein

Martin Hotze wrote:
On 13 Aug 2005 15:22:31 GMT, Blanche wrote:

Just a reminder, there are no "laws" regarding the US flag, only
traditions and conventions.

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/us...01_4_10_1.html

oh well.

In that section, most of the stuff is considered "customs." Note that there is
heavy use of the word "should" in many of the sections. Section 3 (using the
flag for advertising purposes), however, is obviously a law; it states that the
offense described is a crime and dictates the fine. As far as this reference is
concerend, Blanche seems to be correct that not allowing the flag to touch the
ground (and similar customs) fall into the category of conventions.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

Section 3 (using the flag for advertising purposes), however, is obviously a law; it states that the offense described is a crime and dictates the fine.

.... and is also valid only in DC.

Jose
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Martin Hotze wrote:
On 13 Aug 2005 15:22:31 GMT, Blanche wrote:

Just a reminder, there are no "laws" regarding the US flag, only
traditions and conventions.

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/us...01_4_10_1.html

oh well.

Fascinating! Had no idea this existed. However, let me point out a
line in the home page of that website:

"This version is generated from the most recent official version made available by the US House of Representatives"

To me, this does not indicate it's law, but what the House thinks is
law. IIRC, US laws (most of the time) require both houses and a signature
by the Prez to become law.

I dunno.

"Blanche" wrote

Which is hysterically
funny, because the only "approved in the rules" method of destroying
a worn-out US flag is by burning.

No, there's no logic.

Correctly burning a flag to dispose of it involves separating the different
parts, such as the red stripes, the white stripes, and the blue field and
stars. Only after they are separated, are they burned.
--
Jim in NC

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:14:39 -0400, Morgans wrote:

Correctly burning a flag to dispose of it involves separating the different
parts, such as the red stripes, the white stripes, and the blue field and
stars. Only after they are separated, are they burned.

they showed such a ceremony once on TV ... it was at a Veterans post (?)
with some boys in weired uniforms, a 200 year old man with uniform and many
medals asking questions like "has the flag done its duty and is it worn
out" (or the like) and then it was disposed in a burning oil drum ...
everybody there was close to their tears.

#m

--
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed,
most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we
come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein

And I am sure you didn't get it,.......

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:14:39 -0400, Morgans wrote:

Correctly burning a flag to dispose of it involves separating the
different
parts, such as the red stripes, the white stripes, and the blue field and
stars. Only after they are separated, are they burned.

they showed such a ceremony once on TV ... it was at a Veterans post (?)
with some boys in weired uniforms, a 200 year old man with uniform and
many
medals asking questions like "has the flag done its duty and is it worn
out" (or the like) and then it was disposed in a burning oil drum ...
everybody there was close to their tears.

#m

--
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed,
most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we
come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:34:09 -0400, W P Dixon wrote:

And I am sure you didn't get it,.......

what?

A group of people celebrated local traditions. This is OK with me as long
as you don't expect that I should also celebrate the very same traditions.
I also don't expect you celebrating our traditions.

what's your point?

Patrick

#m
--
The most likely way for the world to be destroyed,
most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we
come in; we're computer professionals. We cause accidents.
-- Nathaniel Borenstein