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"Juan Jimenez" wrote:
"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message roups.com... If the situation were reversed would the US tolerate people registering a/c overseas to dodge the US requirements?? No. Even though the Brit requirements are ridiculous, they are their prerogative. They should have put paid to offshoring registration years ago. (Or else why not just do like shipowners and license in some country like Liberia?) Pardon, but the US laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government is planning on implementing, and even though our FAA can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the UK pilots have to deal with. Pardon, but the Liberian laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government has implemented, and even though the Liberian government can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the US ship owners have to deal with. Tim -- You are being watched. This gives you power. |
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Pardon, but the US laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government is planning on implementing, and even though our FAA can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the UK pilots have to deal with. Pardon, but the Liberian laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government has implemented, and even though the Liberian government can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the US ship owners have to deal with. What are these onerous requirements? I'm in the U.S., but I'm anti-globalist, and a heretic to boot-I firmly believe GA here brought its own problems on itself and besides, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. |
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Bret Ludwig wrote: Pardon, but the US laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government is planning on implementing, and even though our FAA can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the UK pilots have to deal with. Pardon, but the Liberian laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government has implemented, and even though the Liberian government can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the US ship owners have to deal with. What are these onerous requirements? Minimum wage, OSHA, union rules, workman's comp, to name just a few? FWIW the US does restrict foreign-registered ships and planes from carrying domestic passengers. A Thai Airlines flight that originates at JFK and stops at LAX to pick up more pax and fuel cannot sell a ticket for the JFK-LAX segment. Similarly, cruises to Alaska start in Vancouver rather than Seattle because the ships are all registered under flags of convenience. -cwk. |
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Chris wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in message ... wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: Pardon, but the US laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government is planning on implementing, and even though our FAA can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the UK pilots have to deal with. Pardon, but the Liberian laws don't impose the onerous requirements that your government has implemented, and even though the Liberian government can be quite incompetent and pigheaded when they want to be, they're not nearly as anal as the folks the US ship owners have to deal with. What are these onerous requirements? Minimum wage, OSHA, union rules, workman's comp, to name just a few? FWIW the US does restrict foreign-registered ships and planes from carrying domestic passengers. A Thai Airlines flight that originates at JFK and stops at LAX to pick up more pax and fuel cannot sell a ticket for the JFK-LAX segment. Not sure this is just a US restriction. On the rec.travel.air newsgroup (where I haven't hung out in a few years so this may changed) they used to refer to this as the "fifth freedom" and I don't think any country allows it. The UK allows it, that I do know. Its possible for example to buy a ticket on say air India from London to New York, on a service that started in Mumbai. But that's not a "domestic" flight. It's not analogous to the NY-LA situation described above. |
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Chris wrote: "xyzzy" wrote in message ... wrote: FWIW the US does restrict foreign-registered ships and planes from carrying domestic passengers. A Thai Airlines flight that originates at JFK and stops at LAX to pick up more pax and fuel cannot sell a ticket for the JFK-LAX segment. Not sure this is just a US restriction. On the rec.travel.air newsgroup (where I haven't hung out in a few years so this may changed) they used to refer to this as the "fifth freedom" and I don't think any country allows it. The UK allows it, that I do know. Its possible for example to buy a ticket on say air India from London to New York, on a service that started in Mumbai. This is not cabotage and is allowed in the US as well. I used to travel from JFK to FRA frequently and you could often get a great deal on Singapore Airlines (one of the world's best) because they would fly JFK-FRA-SKG and while the FRA-SKG segment was always full there were often a few dozen empty seats on the JFK-FRA leg which they would fire sale for 1/3rd of the price on DL or LH. Cabotage would be as for the example I gave above where the foreign flight touches down in two or more US cities such as BKK-LAX-JFK, and sells a ticket for the LAX-JFK segment. The only people this benefits are US airlines, who at this point deserve only a little more sympathy than French truck drivers. I supported the post-9/11 bailouts because that was an extraordinary event and defense/nat'l security issues are the most essential purpose of the whole federal shebang, but that's behind us. The only people benefiting from the current system are sleazebag airline execs who get paid millions to lose billions. Time to let the free market sort things out, IMHO. -cwk. |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... Not sure this is just a US restriction. On the rec.travel.air newsgroup (where I haven't hung out in a few years so this may changed) they used to refer to this as the "fifth freedom" and I don't think any country allows it. The UK allows it, that I do know. Its possible for example to buy a ticket on say air India from London to New York, on a service that started in Mumbai. Last time I checked, and I could be wrong but, aren't London and New York in to different countries? |
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