At last, the truth...

I have only ever met one woman who flew when her husband/boyfriend
didn't. And she was having an affair with a guy with a Pitts.

See, it just goes to show you that you don't have to have a lot of money
to fly a Pitts.
All you need is something of value to trade for stick time. ;-))

God, that is SOO bad...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

God, that is SOO bad...

Yes, but I've seen it happen more than once. We had a local female
pilot on the field whose husband (or maybe live-in boyfriend) didn't
fly. He's long gone. She's racking up a bunch of twin time, hoping to
fly for a living. The onwer of the twin is getting a divorce. He's
her future ex-husband, don't you see...

Seriously, there really aren't a lot of female pilots, and most of the
ones you see are career-track. A female general aviator is a true
rarity. If you're a man who insists on only marrying someone who
shares your passion for flight, odds are you will be staying single.

I'm sitting here, racking my brain, trying to think of ANY
non-career-track female pilots I ever met who were not already married
or otherwise somewhat permanently attached to a male pilot. I'm
thinking there were maybe half a dozen at most, and none are still
available.

Michael

Michael wrote:
I'm sitting here, racking my brain, trying to think of ANY
non-career-track female pilots I ever met who were not already married
or otherwise somewhat permanently attached to a male pilot. I'm
thinking there were maybe half a dozen at most, and none are still
available.


Michael,
Your post reminded me of a story told by Rick Durden. He met a single
female pilot at an aviation event and heard her making this comment:

"The odds are good, but the goods are odd" ;-)


Hai Longworth

"Michael" wrote:
I'm sitting here, racking my brain, trying to think of ANY
non-career-track female pilots I ever met who were not already married
or otherwise somewhat permanently attached to a male pilot. I'm
thinking there were maybe half a dozen at most, and none are still
available.

Nice job of blanket generalizing and stereotyping, assuming/presuming!
Hope the Women in Aviation group never gets ahold of you! There are
several of us who do NOT fit the stereotypes you described above. There
are several of us who did not pursue a pilot license to become an Airbus
Captain *or* to give us an way to find a male pilot to "attach"
ourselves to. Another common insulting misconception among women who are
fearful or disinterested in flying is that those of us that *aren't*
fearful and who *are* interested are only after their husbands.

Why is it *so* unbelievable to so many people that a woman can be just
as passionate about *flying* as a man can be -- just for the love of
FLYING, not to get to the airlines or to find a husband?

wrote:

Why is it *so* unbelievable to so many people that a woman can be just
as passionate about *flying* as a man can be -- just for the love of
FLYING, not to get to the airlines or to find a husband?

It's not unbelievable; I know such a woman.

That's it: one.

Is it so unbelievable to you that women, for whatever reasons, are
*generally* less disposed to be interested than men in flying just for
the love of it? If you are, you should be proud of being such a special
person, IMO.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

unicate wrote:

Why is it *so* unbelievable to so many people that a woman can be just
as passionate about *flying* as a man can be -- just for the love of
FLYING, not to get to the airlines or to find a husband?

It's not unbelievable; I know such a woman.

That's it: one.

"Dan Luke" wrote:
Is it so unbelievable to you that women, for whatever reasons, are
*generally* less disposed to be interested than men in flying just for
the love of it?

No, I'm not arguing that women are *generally* less inclined to be as
interested in or passionate about flying as men. I totally agree with
that.

What I'm responding to here is the assumption that most women pilots are
''on the career track'' OR are ''attached to a male pilot'', and the
presumption that unlike men, *women* pilots are not in it, on their own,
for an intense love of flying. There may be more women in flying *for
the love of flying* than you think ... maybe you just presumed they were
there for other reasons, because that's the stereotype. (Just for the
record, I'm not disagreeing that *some* are there to get their M.R.S.
certificate, either!)

Why is it *so* unbelievable to so many people that a woman can be just
as passionate about *flying* as a man can be -- just for the love of
FLYING, not to get to the airlines or to find a husband?

It's not.

What is unbelievable is that anywhere near as many women feel this way
as men. It is unbelievable because so few such women are observed.

Jose
--
Quantum Mechanics is like this: God =does= play dice with the universe,
except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Xmnushal8y:
Why is it *so* unbelievable to so many people that a woman can be just
as passionate about *flying* as a man can be -- just for the love of
FLYING, not to get to the airlines or to find a husband?

Jose wrote:
It's not.

What is unbelievable is that anywhere near as many women feel this way
as men. It is unbelievable because so few such women are observed.

No one claimed that there were ''anywhere near as many'' ... but there
are SOME, and maybe if there wasn't a pre-established
assumption/presumption about why we're there, you might observe that
there are more of us who feel that way (about flying) than you think!

No one claimed that there were ''anywhere near as many'' ... but there
are SOME, and maybe if there wasn't a pre-established
assumption/presumption about why we're there, you might observe that
there are more of us who feel that way (about flying) than you think!

Noone claimed, as you imply, that there are none.

My flying club has about fifty members. Of them, only one is a woman.
As it turns out, her husband is also a pilot, and a member of the same club.

Of my personal friends, I know only a few women pilots; one is even an
aerobatics champion. As it turns out, none of my personal male friends
are aerobatics pilots.

I've flown with four female CFIs, but probably close to twenty or thirty
male CFIs. Where there's a choice I try to fly with the women, figuring
that a woman who is trying to make it in any male-dominated field is
likely to have more passion for it than the men.

Yes, they are out there. Nobody said nay. Perhaps they are less
visible than their numbers would dictate.

Jose
--
Quantum Mechanics is like this: God =does= play dice with the universe,
except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Yes, they are out there. Nobody said nay. Perhaps they are less visible
than their numbers would dictate.

One thing Mary and I have noticed is that female voices on the radio are
predominantly CFIs or commuter airline drivers. It's rare, indeed, to hear
a woman just out flying.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"