i didn't know an ILS brought you right to the control tower

On 8/17/05 7:28 PM, in article 9KPMe.60890$E95.11876@fed1read01, "Jay
Beckman" wrote:

It's quite possible that the reporter simply regurgitated the basics of
flying an ILS exactly as they were explained to her. Garbage In - Garbage
Out. Or put another way: Dumbed Down In - Dumbed Down Even More Out.

Hell, even Miles O'Brien proved that sometimes the frenzy to get it on the
air first can lead even the most aviation-savvy network-level reporter to
make the occassional wild-ass guess as he did with the cause of that Air
France wreck in Toronto and the fate of those aboard.

Take it with a grain of salt. And if it really offends your sensabilities
that much, then craft a letter to the editor and educate them. I bet they'd
appreciate it. Who knows, you might get a call to go on the air as a local
aviation expert. Just try not to freeze up when the red light comes on...!


What's the excuse when a pilot (me) works for a newspaper, the reporter
knows it, and they *still* get a flying-related story wrong? I pointed out
multiple errors in a story before it went to press. Did it make a
difference? Nope.
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What's the excuse when a pilot (me) works for a newspaper, the reporter
knows it, and they *still* get a flying-related story wrong? I pointed out
multiple errors in a story before it went to press. Did it make a
difference? Nope.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino

Because they insist on trying to convince us that they know all. We are the
Munchkins in the Land of Oz, and they are the Wizard. Hey, what's behind
that curtain? Nothing but hot air and over inflated egos. Now bring me
those slippers! Wait... you're the Wizard. Now bring me the broomstick of
the Wicked Witch!

The worst part is that people think because you're a pilot and work for the
newspaper, therefore it HAS to be correct, even though you didn't write it.
Or how crazy or foolish you end up looking because now you have to run
around to your pilot friends and others that ask about it correcting the
errors. Bummer.

What I really want to know is how satellites may interfere with an ILS (as
from the video). I've never heard of that before.

Jim

What I really want to know is how satellites may interfere with an ILS (as
from the video). I've never heard of that before.

They can fall on the transmitter.

Jose
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On 8/17/05 7:28 PM, in article 9KPMe.60890$E95.11876@fed1read01, "Jay
Beckman" wrote:

It's quite possible that the reporter simply regurgitated the basics of
flying an ILS exactly as they were explained to her. Garbage In -
Garbage
Out. Or put another way: Dumbed Down In - Dumbed Down Even More Out.

Hell, even Miles O'Brien proved that sometimes the frenzy to get it on
the
air first can lead even the most aviation-savvy network-level reporter to
make the occassional wild-ass guess as he did with the cause of that Air
France wreck in Toronto and the fate of those aboard.

Take it with a grain of salt. And if it really offends your
sensabilities
that much, then craft a letter to the editor and educate them. I bet
they'd
appreciate it. Who knows, you might get a call to go on the air as a
local
aviation expert. Just try not to freeze up when the red light comes
on...!

What's the excuse when a pilot (me) works for a newspaper, the reporter
knows it, and they *still* get a flying-related story wrong? I pointed out
multiple errors in a story before it went to press. Did it make a
difference? Nope.

And to whom did you point out the errors?

If it was to the reporter, then you probably lost out to their ego (Hey, I
checked my facts and my sources tell me it was this way...)
If it was to an editor, I'd guess you lost out to either indifference or a
deadline.

Either way, I'd say that publication was not exactly a paragon of
journalistic integrity. Especially if there was an "excuse" for it and not
a reason.

Maybe you should have sent a memo to the Publisher? Squeeky wheel and all
that...

Jay B

Jay Beckman wrote:

Maybe you should have sent a memo to the Publisher? Squeeky wheel and all
that...

Or perhaps the advertizers.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

On 8/18/05 3:04 PM, in article %Y4Ne.4296$_D4.1959@trndny05, "George
Patterson" wrote:

Jay Beckman wrote:

Maybe you should have sent a memo to the Publisher? Squeeky wheel and all
that...

Or perhaps the advertizers.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

This has crossed my mind more than once.

Didja ever notice the physical size of a lot of newspapers is smaller than
before? The standard size has been reduced. But the cost of an ad has
remained the same. On a tabloid, we charge you for a 13" ad, but what you
get is 11.75".

Journalistic integrity.
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On 8/18/05 12:38 AM, in article bhUMe.65754$E95.3190@fed1read01, "Jay
Beckman" wrote:
What's the excuse when a pilot (me) works for a newspaper, the reporter
knows it, and they *still* get a flying-related story wrong? I pointed out
multiple errors in a story before it went to press. Did it make a
difference? Nope.

And to whom did you point out the errors?

If it was to the reporter, then you probably lost out to their ego (Hey, I
checked my facts and my sources tell me it was this way...)
If it was to an editor, I'd guess you lost out to either indifference or a
deadline.

Either way, I'd say that publication was not exactly a paragon of
journalistic integrity. Especially if there was an "excuse" for it and not
a reason.

Maybe you should have sent a memo to the Publisher? Squeeky wheel and all
that...

Jay B


I pointed it out to the reporter. I'm sure indifference to accuracy was the
reason.

Deadline? Don't make me laugh. A pet peeve of mine here is that there is no
such thing as a deadline. Ever since manual paste-up fell by the wayside and
the industry converted to electronic pagination (PDF), our "drop dead
deadline" has now defaulted to whenever the press is scheduled to run,
usually noon. Even then, we miss *that* deadline and hold up the press, as
we did this Monday when we delivered the last page at 1:30 pm.

The publisher is well aware of it. His office is mere steps away from my
desk. Last Monday when we missed the deadline, the AJC complained loudly
(they actually print our paper), so he sent out an email chastising the
editorial and advertising department. Didn't make a bit of difference since
we did again it this week.

I have a lot of pet peeves with this industry and the place I work in
particular. But I don't own it and I've voiced my concerns often enough to
the point I've been told to keep quiet. So be it. I have plenty of freelance
work to keep me occupied when the place folds.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino

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