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Old August 21st 05, 04:43 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
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"Clinton's amendment, also sponsored by Sens. Richard Durbin
(D-Ill.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), Charles
Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), requires the government
to undertake as assessment of the dangers posed to high-risk, large
populations and critical infrastructure areas should GA aircraft be
stolen and used as a weapon."

In theory, this doesn't sound all bad. We've been saying all along
that GA is a small risk and that the FRZ is unwarranted. If they
actually study it, they might find that out.


You are a fool if you believe the study would be objective. The way these
work is the conclusion is made then the study is conducted to support the
conclusion. With all the Ds sponsoring the bill it is guaranteed GA would
come out looking like the worst terrorism organization in the world.



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Old August 21st 05, 08:57 AM
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If you believe that, you're a bigger fool than me.

The way these things REALLY work is to provide the politicians involved
the appearance of taking corrective action without actually having to
do anything.

The most politically useful conclusion for the sponsors would be that
the study indicates that GA is not a significant threat, and/or that
the cost of mitigating the threat is prohibitive. That way, the
sponsors can say they support whatever legislation they invent (and
gain the approval of their supporters), but not lose the support of
their opponents by being able to implement any changes.

Plus, if anything goes wrong, they can blame it on the scientists or
bean-counters. Especially the ones in the other party.

Political shenanigans aside, the study would have to deal with the
truth to some extent. There would be too many eyes watching to get too
unscientific. Any truth at all that comes out of the study would be
pro-GA.

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Old August 22nd 05, 05:24 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you believe that, you're a bigger fool than me.

The way these things REALLY work is to provide the politicians involved
the appearance of taking corrective action without actually having to
do anything.

The most politically useful conclusion for the sponsors would be that
the study indicates that GA is not a significant threat, and/or that
the cost of mitigating the threat is prohibitive. That way, the
sponsors can say they support whatever legislation they invent (and
gain the approval of their supporters), but not lose the support of
their opponents by being able to implement any changes.

Plus, if anything goes wrong, they can blame it on the scientists or
bean-counters. Especially the ones in the other party.

Political shenanigans aside, the study would have to deal with the
truth to some extent. There would be too many eyes watching to get too
unscientific. Any truth at all that comes out of the study would be
pro-GA.



Dream on. Betcha McCain jumps on this band wagon before too long.



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Old August 22nd 05, 04:07 PM
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Dream on. Betcha McCain jumps on this band wagon before too long.

What a disgusting puke!

My bet: McCain doesn't run AGAINST Hillary in '06, he runs WITH her
(especially if he doesn't get the Repub nomination).



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Old August 22nd 05, 05:37 PM
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McCain may as well run with Hillary, because he can not win the south no
matter what his party. He shot himself there during his last run. He would
have been the nominee and probably the President if he would have kept his
trap shut in South Carolina.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Dream on. Betcha McCain jumps on this band wagon before too long.

What a disgusting puke!

My bet: McCain doesn't run AGAINST Hillary in '06, he runs WITH her
(especially if he doesn't get the Repub nomination).




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Old August 23rd 05, 05:14 AM
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"W P Dixon" wrote

He would
have been the nominee and probably the President if he would have kept his
trap shut in South Carolina.


Refresh my memory?

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Old August 23rd 05, 04:24 AM
W P Dixon
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Well,
It seemed McCain was doing very very well with southern voters. They
(myself included) respected and admired his courage through Vietnam. He had
it made for sure...then he went and told the people of South Carolina they
should take down the Battle Flag. His numbers went into the trashcan
overnight and he never did recover and lost the south and the nomination.
Seems people in the south thought he had as much right to tell South
Carolina what flag to fly on the Statehouse grounds as people in South
Carolina telling Arizona to fly pink underwear on their flagpole. Just did
not go over well.

Patrick

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote

He would
have been the nominee and probably the President if he would have kept
his
trap shut in South Carolina.


Refresh my memory?


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Old August 22nd 05, 06:57 PM
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Hillary and the three midgets are pandering to the anti crowd that wants
to close the nuclear powered electric generating stations at Indian
Point.


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Old August 22nd 05, 11:01 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Dream on. Betcha McCain jumps on this band wagon before too long.

What a disgusting puke!

My bet: McCain doesn't run AGAINST Hillary in '06, he runs WITH her
(especially if he doesn't get the Repub nomination).


I hear ya.


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Old August 22nd 05, 11:47 PM
Matt Whiting
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Dream on. Betcha McCain jumps on this band wagon before too long.


What a disgusting puke!

My bet: McCain doesn't run AGAINST Hillary in '06, he runs WITH her
(especially if he doesn't get the Repub nomination).


Which makes sense since he is a Democrat at heart. I still can't figure
out why he just doesn't change parties and make it official.

Matt
 




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