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and what are you (the USA) going to do with it? you already can have world
domination with the military arsenal you currently have. There is no logic
reason for even more military power.

Martin, If world domination was our objective, we could have probably accomplished that when the Soviet Union fell
apart. (We might still be able to do that). I know I will never convince you otherwise, but the typical U.S.
citizen is a decent human being who really does want world peace and wants to co-exist and work alongside other
peoples. There are occurrences where some countries or rulers try to dominate others, such as the recent invasion of
Kuwait by Iraq and a limited engagement is a viable option. We keep hearing that we are a "Superpower" and should be
the world's policeman. Many if not most of us would prefer that other countries handle their own problems
internally. No one that I know personally wants to have to resort to nuclear warfare. To answer your assertions, I
believe that there is very good logic to keep developing weapons for limited engagements. Standing still with
conventional weapon development will get us into a position where we have no other choice but the nuclear route.

To keep this discussion on topic and aviation related:

I know you get tired of having this thrown in your face but I also had a close relative who died in WWII trying to
preserve your countries way of life . After that war did we come in and try and dominate your country? You can read
about him he

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/mohiia2.htm

scroll down to
*GOTT, DONALD J. (Air Mission)

I have a goal of visiting your country to learn more of it's rich history and people and to visit the area where my
cousin lost his life. Would you be available as a guide to the Hattonville area?

Joe Schneider
8437R



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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:59:30 -0500, "JJS" jschneider@remove socks
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and what are you (the USA) going to do with it? you already can have world
domination with the military arsenal you currently have. There is no logic
reason for even more military power.

Martin, If world domination was our objective, we could have probably accomplished that when the Soviet Union fell
apart.

true

(We might still be able to do that). I know I will never convince you otherwise, but the typical U.S.
citizen is a decent human being

I met some Americans in the US.

who really does want world peace

let's hope it.

and wants to co-exist and work alongside other
peoples.


the average American really doe not see much of the international stuff
that is going on. and he is mostly not interested. (speaking of the average
American). At least this was the impression I got.

There are occurrences where some countries or rulers try to dominate others, such as the recent invasion of
Kuwait by Iraq

recent?

and a limited engagement is a viable option. We keep hearing that we are a "Superpower" and should be
the world's policeman.

this was then.
today many see the *official* USA way outside of the wolrd community. Maybe
and hopefully this is only the *official* America. As long as I have this
impression (and many of my friends share this viewpoint) I will stay away
from this country, I won't feel save. I hope I am wrong and I know that the
average American can't understand my and my friends' viewpoint.

Many if not most of us would prefer that other countries handle their own problems
internally.

yes

No one that I know personally wants to have to resort to nuclear warfare. To answer your assertions, I
believe that there is very good logic to keep developing weapons for limited engagements.

this might be right .. but as I am not a friend of weapons at all I can't
share this aspect. Sure, there are always bad guys and one has to be
protected ... this is sort of a conflict ...

Standing still with
conventional weapon development will get us into a position where we have no other choice but the nuclear route.

there is always a choice.

To keep this discussion on topic and aviation related:

I know you get tired of having this thrown in your face but I also had a close relative who died in WWII trying to
preserve your countries way of life .

hm, that of my ancestors; but I have good sources that they didn't like the
way they lived. It is rather complex to understand, even for folks here
that have not lived in this time (like me). It must be harder to understand
for foreigners.

After that war did we come in and try and dominate your country?

domination? not really. but you haven't done anything without seeking your
own advantage (this was your good right, America was on the winner's side
of the war).

You can read
about him he

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/mohiia2.htm

scroll down to
*GOTT, DONALD J. (Air Mission)

sorry about the loss your family had.

I have a goal of visiting your country

Austria?

to learn more of it's rich history and people and to visit the area where my
cousin lost his life. Would you be available as a guide to the Hattonville area?

where is Hattonville? France? England?
Overflying your link it seems to be in France. Saarbruecken is close to the
French border.
I'd love to guide you when visiting my area (Tirol, Austria) - but there is
little to nothing left re historic sites of WWII in our area.

Joe Schneider
8437R

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where is Hattonville? France? England?
Overflying your link it seems to be in France. Saarbruecken is close to the
French border.
I'd love to guide you when visiting my area (Tirol, Austria) - but there is
little to nothing left re historic sites of WWII in our area.

Damn, Are you sure you're not French?



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Hi Joe!

"JJS" jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net wrote:
I have a goal of visiting your country to learn more of it's rich
history and people and to visit the area where my cousin lost his
life. Would you be available as a guide to the Hattonville area?

Hattonville is located Southeast of Verdun, France, thus quite a ways from
Martin's location in Austria. I happen to live in the Southwest of Germany,
about two hours by car (or 45 minutes by plane :-) from the Verdun area.
Please let me know if I can be of any assistance in your travel plans.


Many greetings,
Markus Voget


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Hattonville is located Southeast of Verdun, France, thus quite a ways from
Martin's location in Austria. I happen to live in the Southwest of Germany,
about two hours by car (or 45 minutes by plane :-) from the Verdun area.
Please let me know if I can be of any assistance in your travel plans.

Markus, Thanks for the wonderful offer. If and when I can afford the trip I may be in contact.



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