Student Drop-Out Rates...why?

"Jose" wrote in message
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My most expensive purchases have been my car, my current house and my
plane-- in descending order.

Sheesh! What do you drive? Where do you live?

Ok, my house and car were each about $25k. Living in the middle of nowhere,
there are cheap houses available. The problem is living in the middle of
nowhere. The 2 previous homes I've owned 'somewhere' were 3 to 4+ times as
much. My house, car and plane are all small compared to what a lot of people
care to have, but they're paid for and suit me fine. ;-)

The problem is living in the middle of
nowhere.

That's what the airplane is for.

Jose
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"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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Aviation is getting old. I'm 40 now, and for 12 years have been the
youngest person hanging out at airport and the youngest person in my EAA
chapter. When a new guy shows up who's 28, he sees all the old farts
(maybe
I'm one too in his eyes), and looks for a younger crowd to hang with.
This
doesn't help.

Maybe there needs to be a aviation sector of the "X" games. I'm only half
kidding.

-Trent
PP-ASEL



Why not make the Summer X-Games a stop on the Red Bull competition-aerobatic
tour...or add a Flugtag-esque event?

Just adding a couple of cents to this thought...

Jay Beckman - PP/ASEL
Arizona Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

"Jose" wrote in message
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The problem is living in the middle of nowhere.

That's what the airplane is for.

Yup! Of course, I'd be living here in the middle of nowhere even without a
plane -- but wouldn't enjoy it as much.

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Trent Moorehead" wrote in message
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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Aviation is getting old. I'm 40 now, and for 12 years have been the
youngest person hanging out at airport and the youngest person in my EAA
chapter. When a new guy shows up who's 28, he sees all the old farts
(maybe
I'm one too in his eyes), and looks for a younger crowd to hang with.
This
doesn't help.

Maybe there needs to be a aviation sector of the "X" games. I'm only half
kidding.

-Trent
PP-ASEL



Excellent idea. But the FAA makes them jump through so many hoops. If NASCAR
had to have the safety items in place that Redbll does you'd be watching
races at Daytona from the beach.

Why not make the Summer X-Games a stop on the Red Bull
competition-aerobatic tour...or add a Flugtag-esque event?

Just adding a couple of cents to this thought...

Jay Beckman - PP/ASEL
Arizona Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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I don't mean to psychoanalyze, but your son's friend's statement seems
suspect. He apparently has spent some time practicing simulated ILSes
into JFK (not to mention paying for and assembling a spiffy flight
simulator), so he must have found it somewhat entertaining on the
computer. How could it have been less entertaining in a real aircraft?

I guess the cost benefit of fun/effort may be better on a computer sim
than in a real aircraft, but that doesn't make it boring, just not the
best "investment."

If that's the case, the GA needs to understand that equation, and start
to tweak it.


You're right he has several hundred hours of simulator time. Basically he
learned to fly in a 747. I think it is all a matter of instant
gratification he has no interest in spending the time in the "little
planes" as he calls them even if it meant he would later get to fly 747s
for AA.

This is a good point.

The subject of "How Do I Start?" comes up often over on the MSFS newsgroup
and without fail, the suggestion is made to start with the Cessna 172, fly
the canned Rod Machado lessons, read the articles about flight and flying
and work your way up to the 182, the Mooney, the Lear, the 737, etc...

And, also without fail, the newbie responds: "I want to fly the heavy iron
NOW!!!"

Instant gratification indeed...

Jay Beckman - PP/ASEL (Sim Pilot Too)
Arizona Cloudbusters
Chandler, AZ

I've heard it said that buying the plane is the cheapest part of the
aircraft ownership experience.

Ben Hallert
PP-ASEL

"John Doe" wrote in message
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Aviation is getting old. I'm 40 now, and for 12 years have been the
youngest person hanging out at airport and the youngest person in my EAA
chapter. When a new guy shows up who's 28, he sees all the old farts
(maybe I'm one too in his eyes), and looks for a younger crowd to hang
with. This doesn't help.

KB


That's because the planes they're flying in are just as old. Some new
teenager or college student doesn't see much excitement when they come out
to the airport and they have to look at 1960s era Cessnas and they wonder
what's keeping the wings on.

Go to another FBO that has a fleet of new Cirrus or Diamond trainers and
you'll see a younger crowd.

This industry needs a major investment to retire all planes older than 20
years old and get some new metal on the ramp.

You have that backwards. Get rid of all the planes 50 years old and newer
and keep all the older fun to fly planes. The new stuff is boring to look
at and even worse to fly. I'd quit flying in a micro second if the only
option was new spam or plastic.

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

That's the objective. But te real outcome will be more old guys who are
scared they are going to loose their medicals.

In other words: a holding action.

- Andrew


In other words less income for AMEs.

Jose wrote:
What I meant was that you could safely fly through thunderstorms while
two engines were on fire, your gyros were spinning down, and the
approach plate fell on the floor, if you were in a simulator. You won't
get that excitement in ordinary flying. (or at least you shouldn't.


Probably not more than once, anyway.




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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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