slow roll in a super decathlon

To me, it doesn't seem to have much adverse yaw at all. Perhaps I'm simply
not noticing it due to the grand scheme of things, i.e. being a little new
to being upside down, etc! Point taken, i'll check for yaw. That, to me,
is a minor point to my overall question.

It appears as if I'm doing this manuever very wrong. More importantly, I'm
curious to know how to proceed. I presume I should slow the roll rate to a
point where, if not compensated with top rudder, the nose would drop? Is
there a (practical) point at which the roll rate is too slow?


Many Thanks,




"Doug Carter" wrote in message
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The term "slow roll" gets interpreted different ways. In competition
aerobatics there is nothing slow about it and rudder is absolutely
required because it is really a "roll around a point." That is to say
that you use the controls to keep the nose pinned to a single point
rather than draw an ellipse with it.

Of course you can slow the roll rate (useful in training) but you cannot
keep the nose on a point without rudder.

Its been a few years since I had a Decathlon but I don't remember it
lacking adverse yaw. Hard to imagine any uncoordinated rolling maneuver
works very well..

Doug Carter
Pitts S2-C

In article , B S D Chapman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:21:29 +0100, Nobody wrote:

I'm curious to know how others do slow rolls in a Super D. I learned
to
do
them without rudder. I was told that for a full deflection slow roll,
no
rudder is required. To me, they look fine. I draw the lolipop on the
horizon. It just seems odd that they don't require rudder.

Here's how I do them.

1. Establish entry speed, 130 mph.
2. Pitch slightly nose high, neutralize, then full deflection.

If it is with full deflection, it's not a "Slow Roll" (even if is takes
an
age compared to other types).
If you don't need rudder, you're not rolling slowly enough.

3. At 90 degrees, vertical bank, begin slow push.
4. At 270 degrees start stick back.
5. Roll level.


TIA