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"Mike Rapoport" wrote:
Actually, it has almost nothing to do with the EPA. ... Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of them so nobody builds any more. I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand, refineries are generally at capacity? Fred F. |
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TaxSrv wrote:
Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of them so nobody builds any more. I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand, refineries are generally at capacity? From what I've read, we are at a period of running at capacity. Which means that we are getting close to a period in which (as Mike put it) "the market grows and there is a shortage." Which will be followed by a period in which (as Mike put it) "Then everybody builds more and there is a glut again." George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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![]() "George Patterson" wrote in message news:LQaPe.3479$SW1.2859@trndny09... TaxSrv wrote: Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of them so nobody builds any more. I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand, refineries are generally at capacity? From what I've read, we are at a period of running at capacity. Which means that we are getting close to a period in which (as Mike put it) "the market grows and there is a shortage." Which will be followed by a period in which (as Mike put it) "Then everybody builds more and there is a glut again." Except they haven't built a new one in about 30 years, and they've closed (how many) in those 30 some odd years. |
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![]() "TaxSrv" wrote in message news ![]() "Mike Rapoport" wrote: Actually, it has almost nothing to do with the EPA. ... Refineries are like anything else, there are too many of them so nobody builds any more. I'm not an expert on this industry either, but do you have a source for the above? Is the industry lying when they say that at peak demand, refineries are generally at capacity? Fred F. I don't have a single source, but you will find many references to refineries running at capacity today and you will find that most of the major refiners are making large capital improvements to their existing refineries (mostly more ability to handle heavy, high sulpher crude). The process of adding capacity has begun but it takes a long time to complete. It doesn't matter if we are talking about refining capacity or almost anything else, the process is pretty much the same. I used to observe the shortage to glut process in the San Francisco office space market. Mike MU-2 |
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