Running dry?

In article QbHOe.2349$IG2.1697@trndny01,
George Patterson wrote:

john smith wrote:

Have you ever looked inside an old, straight-backed Cessna 182 jumpship?
I would wager that they have 1600 pound useful load EASY!

Max gross - 2,950. Empty weight - 1,595.

Gross weight on the 182 is 2550 pounds, the 182A and 182B gross at 2650.
Gross didn't get up to 2950 pounds until they put the girlie swept tail
on them.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

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With NO changes in engine horsepower, NO changes in wing design, NO changes
in nothing else except a net NEGATIVE CHANGE in rudder area ...

How (in an engineering sense) did they do that?

Jim





"Dale" wrote in message
...

Gross weight on the 182 is 2550 pounds, the 182A and 182B gross at 2650.
Gross didn't get up to 2950 pounds until they put the girlie swept tail
on them.

--
Dale L. Falk

With NO changes in engine horsepower, NO changes in wing design, NO
changes in nothing else except a net NEGATIVE CHANGE in rudder area ...

How (in an engineering sense) did they do that?

Jim, it's an FAA thing.

'Nuff said.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 2005-08-25, RST Engineering wrote:
With NO changes in engine horsepower, NO changes in wing design, NO changes
in nothing else except a net NEGATIVE CHANGE in rudder area ...

How (in an engineering sense) did they do that?

There was another change - limiting the flap extension (IIRC) from 40
degrees to 30 degrees. Part of what decides gross weight is go around
performance with full flaps. You can get a 100lb gross weight increase
in some models of C172 just by limiting the flap extension to 30 degrees
with a plate that prevents you moving the flap switch past the 30
degrees setting.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
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Dylan Smith wrote:

On 2005-08-25, RST Engineering wrote:

With NO changes in engine horsepower, NO changes in wing design, NO changes
in nothing else except a net NEGATIVE CHANGE in rudder area ...

How (in an engineering sense) did they do that?


There was another change - limiting the flap extension (IIRC) from 40
degrees to 30 degrees.

No 182 is limited to 30 degrees.

In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:



How (in an engineering sense) did they do that?

Jim

They got out their little engineers eraser and engineers pencil and
changed the numbers.

The 30 degree flaps didn't come along until way late in the 182's
life...gross was up over 3000 pounds, IIRC, before the flaps were
limited.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html