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Old August 26th 05, 06:22 PM
Michael
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In the
case of a manual transmission car, so long as the engine is still
actually turning, so will the power steering pump.


And manual transmission cars are what, 10% of the US fleet?

I actually knew a pilot of a single engine airplane (a much-modifed
Swift) who had never made a power-off landing in his airplane, and
wasn't even sure it could be done. He was literally banking on the
engine (a Continental IO-360). It didn't help that he had (legally -
it is a long-standing field approval) covered up the slots in the wings
for speed, so the plane offered very little stall warning.

His engine crapped out on him while he was taking a relative for a
ride. He was about 50 ft above a rice field when he inadvertently
stalled the airplane and pancaked in. Killed himself and his
passenger.

Michael

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Old August 27th 05, 09:39 AM
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On 2005-08-26, Michael wrote:
In the
case of a manual transmission car, so long as the engine is still
actually turning, so will the power steering pump.


And manual transmission cars are what, 10% of the US fleet?


Still, if your engine quits at 60 mph you're likely to be going in a
straight line anyway, so it's not going to be such a big deal. And as I
said, the brakes will still get servo assistance for at least one or two
applications. Both still work - I've had engines quit on automatic
transmission cars and still been able to steer and brake (and this was
in a large Dodge pickup, not some little econobox). I'm hardly the
world's strongest guy.

The pull-over factor was still there.

It wasn't for the pilot of the Swift.

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Old August 29th 05, 03:14 PM
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It wasn't for the pilot of the Swift.

Yeah, it was. He just didn't. That stall at 50 ft was right over a
rice field. If he had kept his nose down a little longer, he would
have walked away. If you squander those two brake applications,
well...

Michael

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Old August 29th 05, 03:25 PM
Dylan Smith
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On 2005-08-29, Michael wrote:
It wasn't for the pilot of the Swift.


Yeah, it was. He just didn't. That stall at 50 ft was right over a
rice field. If he had kept his nose down a little longer, he would
have walked away. If you squander those two brake applications,
well...


....well, the brakes still work to max effort - you just have to push
harder. Since I've owned one or two barely road legal wrecks, I have
first hand experience :-)

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