Rocks Thrown at Border Patrol Chopper

There is something ironic about US citizens whose families have lived
here for less than 400 years complaining about illegal immigrants...

Yes, there is. But never before have new immigrants so arrogantly
*expected* everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

When my ancestors arrived in America, in 1852, they spoke only German. They
attended German language schools during the day, took English classes at
night, and lived in ghettos where they could speak their native tongue
comfortably -- not unlike the barrios of today.

But the difference was, NO ONE expected the American taxpayers to foot the
bill for their bi-lingual education. No one expected signage to be written
in both languages, at the inconvenience and expense of the natives. And
they certainly would never have dreamed of all the bi-lingual crap we must
deal with every day, from ATMs to voice mail systems.

Everyone understood that English was the coin of the realm They either
learned English within six months of landing at Ellis Island -- or they
failed. It was that simple.

AND they arrived legally, by the way. While this is apparently not a
difference that is appreciated by many today, in my book it's a HUGE
difference..

Every time I run a charge card through the machine at Target (or Wal-Mart),
and it wastes my time asking which language I want to read, I vocally
complain to the store employees. This is AMERICA, and the language here is
ENGLISH -- and I shouldn't have to TELL THEM THAT. The incompetent moron
who invented those infernal bilingual charge/ATM machines should be made to
spend all of eternity trying to figure out which button to push on the
menu...

Let me describe this issue in cold economic facts, rather than the emotion
of English versus Spanish: For every million shoppers who must spend an
average of 3 seconds (probably far longer) trying to figure out which button
to push (Spanish or English), that is 34.7 DAYS spent wasting everyone's
time in line, making a stupid, unnecessary choice.

(1,000,000 x 3 seconds = 3,000,000 seconds divided by 60 = 50,000 minutes
divided by 60 = 833.33 hours divided by 24 = 34.7 days)

Now, multiply that times 150,000,000 or so shoppers, and you can see we're
talking a HUGE economic impact -- and that's just one little question on one
little screen that we all must use.

It's insane, but it's the law -- and there's apparently nothing we can do to
change it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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This is AMERICA, and the language here is ENGLISH -- and I shouldn't have
to TELL THEM THAT.
It's insane, but it's the law -- and there's apparently nothing we can do
to change it.

It could be changed if the U.S. had an OFFICIAL language. Until the US makes
a law saying that English (or whatever) is the official language, the
gov'ment will still print IRS forms, census forms, etc., in several
languages. There is no incentive for non-English speaking people (legal or
illegal) to learn English if everything they need is available in their
native language.

"N93332" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:nJRPe.285478$_o.259735@attbi_s71...
This is AMERICA, and the language here is ENGLISH -- and I shouldn't
have
to TELL THEM THAT.
It's insane, but it's the law -- and there's apparently nothing we can
do
to change it.

It could be changed if the U.S. had an OFFICIAL language. Until the US
makes
a law saying that English (or whatever) is the official language, the
gov'ment will still print IRS forms, census forms, etc., in several
languages. There is no incentive for non-English speaking people (legal or
illegal) to learn English if everything they need is available in their
native language.
The only languages they are printed in is English and Spanish -- are you
aware of other languages?

well ,
The drive up ATM machine is in braille

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"N93332" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:nJRPe.285478$_o.259735@attbi_s71...
This is AMERICA, and the language here is ENGLISH -- and I shouldn't
have
to TELL THEM THAT.
It's insane, but it's the law -- and there's apparently nothing we can
do
to change it.

It could be changed if the U.S. had an OFFICIAL language. Until the US
makes
a law saying that English (or whatever) is the official language, the
gov'ment will still print IRS forms, census forms, etc., in several
languages. There is no incentive for non-English speaking people (legal
or
illegal) to learn English if everything they need is available in their
native language.
The only languages they are printed in is English and Spanish -- are you
aware of other languages?

"Matt Barrow" wrote in news:z%WPe.5$nw.170
@news.uswest.net:

Snipola
The only languages they are printed in is English and Spanish -- are you
aware of other languages?

Don't know about those specific forms, but the backside of my utility
bills have help information in no less than five languages besides
english. The last time I was at my local DMV the signs were in about
as many languages and IIRC, you could take the driving test in about
a dozen different languages.

As for language on the ATM's, they keep 'redesigning' the layout.
Every couple months you have to pause and search for the appropriate
button for your language choice because they keep moving the menu
selections around 'to help serve you better'. So far in my area it's
only two choices. Considering the number of languages spoken around
here, it won't be long before it's more.

Actually, you have to pause and search for every button choice
because they keep moving them around. So it's not just the language
button that's a problem on the ATM's.

Brian
--
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

My father brought me here legally from Laos when I was nine as a
refugee. He started working the very first week that we got here. We
were never on any kind of assistance program. Neither he nor I have
ever collected unemployment. We never got anything translated for us.
We got by just find and we learned to adapt to and appreciate this
country.

If everthing is being translated for them, these newcomers, I think
they will have a harder time to adjust because they will wait for
assistance every single time.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message news:
My father brought me here legally from Laos when I was nine as a
refugee. He started working the very first week that we got here. We
were never on any kind of assistance program. Neither he nor I have
ever collected unemployment. We never got anything translated for us.
We got by just find and we learned to adapt to and appreciate this
country.

Haven't read a follow-up to this.

Without immigration, most countries can't survive. The thing that strangles
them is not described by the story you tell. A brief reading of the history
of your adoptive land will tell you of the protective resources you should
have. And, deserve.

moo

There is no incentive for non-English speaking people (legal or
illegal) to learn English if everything they need is available in their
native language.

There's no incentive for Americans to learn anything anymore.

Jose
--
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except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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There is something ironic about US citizens whose families have lived
here for less than 400 years complaining about illegal immigrants...

Yes, there is. But never before have new immigrants so arrogantly
*expected* everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

And which codified law did the immigrants 150-400 year ago break? Which
property laws did they break?

"Matt Barrow" wrote

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:nJRPe.285478$_o.259735@attbi_s71...
There is something ironic about US citizens whose families have lived
here for less than 400 years complaining about illegal immigrants...

Yes, there is. But never before have new immigrants so arrogantly
*expected* everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

And which codified law did the immigrants 150-400 year ago break? Which
property laws did they break?

The law that states that they who have the guns determine the borders. And
then demand money from everyone within to manage their lives. The
immigrants *made* the GD property laws. Think.

moo