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Old August 28th 05, 11:55 PM
Jay Honeck
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For heaven's sake don't let the locals know you said Jersey was part of
the UK! The Channel Islands isn't part of the UK, even though it's
British territory.


???

How can it be British territory and not part of the United Kingdom?

I didn't know one could opt out of that, and still be British?
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Old August 29th 05, 09:43 AM
Dylan Smith
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On 2005-08-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
For heaven's sake don't let the locals know you said Jersey was part of
the UK! The Channel Islands isn't part of the UK, even though it's
British territory.


How can it be British territory and not part of the United Kingdom?


The United Kingdom consists of four countries: England, Wales, Scotland
and Northern Ireland - and nothing else. Great Britain is the island
containing England Wales and Scotland.

British territories include The Falklands, Diego Garcia, Gibraltar, the
Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney et al.), the Isle of Man,
British Virgin Islands etc. They are self governed (for example, here in
the Isle of Man we have our own parliament, known as the House Of Keys,
which has been in existence for over 1000 years), make their own laws,
raise their own taxes, print their own currency (which is usually kept
on a par with the British pound). My passport is an Isle of Man
passport, not a UK passport (it is still a British passport though, but
it occasionally gets a comment from the US immigration officers - "don't
see many of them").

In the case of the Isle of Man, the Queen of England is not the Queen of
the Isle of Man, she is merely the Lord of Mann (although the picture of
the Queen on our money is MUCH more flattering than it is on the UK
money - she doesn't have a double chin on our money for a start. Don't
confuse her with the Lady of Mann which is a passenger ship operated by
the IOMSPC, and probably the best ship for crossing the north Irish Sea
during a winter storm).

ObAviation: Components for Martin-Baker ejection seats are made here.

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Old August 29th 05, 10:13 AM
Stefan
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Jay Honeck wrote:

How can it be British territory and not part of the United Kingdom?


If you don't even know such basics of your best friend, then no wonder
that you have no clue when it comes to understand your ennemies.

Stefan
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Old August 29th 05, 02:26 PM
Jay Honeck
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How can it be British territory and not part of the United Kingdom?

If you don't even know such basics of your best friend, then no wonder
that you have no clue when it comes to understand your ennemies.


Sorry, I didn't realize that you British ran things as stupidly as we
Americans. I guess I thought better of you.

I'm almost afraid to ask WHY these places would want to be British territory
but NOT part of the United Kingdom? Tradition, I presume?
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Old August 29th 05, 03:29 PM
Dylan Smith
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On 2005-08-29, Jay Honeck wrote:
How can it be British territory and not part of the United Kingdom?


If you don't even know such basics of your best friend, then no wonder
that you have no clue when it comes to understand your ennemies.


Sorry, I didn't realize that you British ran things as stupidly as we
Americans. I guess I thought better of you.


Stefan's not British!

I'm almost afraid to ask WHY these places would want to be British territory
but NOT part of the United Kingdom? Tradition, I presume?


If you're self-governing, would *you* want to give this up and impose
direct rule from London? Once a territory is self-governing, they rarely
want to give up that privilege. There's a small group of people who want
complete independence of the Isle of Man as a sovereign nation too.

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Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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Old August 29th 05, 05:40 PM
john smith
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On 2005-08-29, Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm almost afraid to ask WHY these places would want to be British territory
but NOT part of the United Kingdom? Tradition, I presume?


Dylan Smith wrote:
If you're self-governing, would *you* want to give this up and impose
direct rule from London? Once a territory is self-governing, they rarely
want to give up that privilege. There's a small group of people who want
complete independence of the Isle of Man as a sovereign nation too.


Jay, think Puerto Rico.
Territory, best of two worlds.
Gets US funding without being able to vote.
Some US laws apply, some don't.
No federal income tax, but high "state" income tax.
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Old August 30th 05, 01:26 AM
Montblack
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("Dylan Smith" wrote)
[snip]
If you're self-governing, would *you* want to give this up and impose
direct rule from London? Once a territory is self-governing, they rarely
want to give up that privilege. There's a small group of people who want
complete independence of the Isle of Man as a sovereign nation too.



Yeah, Texas gets that itch every once in a while. g

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/

http://www.bchm.org/wrr/war/p3bcw.html

Hard to be just another state when you started out as a nation - The
Republic of Texas.


Montblack
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Old August 30th 05, 03:47 AM
john smith
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Paul,
How was the MN state fair this year?
Aviation activity there???
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Old August 30th 05, 04:07 AM
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"john smith" wrote in message
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Paul,
How was the MN state fair this year?
Aviation activity there???


That's aviation 'on-a-stick'...


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Old August 30th 05, 05:58 AM
Montblack
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("john smith" wrote)
Paul,
How was the MN state fair this year?
Aviation activity there???



I've been out of the loop this fair season - been re-couping at home from
some surgery ...I'll be back up to 90% next, next week. Hey, jets don't even
run at 90% ...or do they? :-)

Meant to call this week and see if Golden Wings Museum sent a plane over to
the MNDot - Aeronautics and Aviation Dept tent this year.

MNDot site doesn't mention any plane I'm familiar with, so looks like I'll
be buying a ticket this year - if I go. MN State Fair runs through Labor Day
....and I just know it's a much, much better fair than that glorified corn
feed they had down in Iowa a week ago! g

http://wcco.com/specialreports/local...238095829.html
From the lame-o link:
In 1901, then-Vice President Teddy Roosevelt stood on a platform at the
Grandstand and at our fair, he is believed to have first uttered his famous
line, "Speak softly and carry a big stick." [Sept 2, 1901 ...Four days later
he was President]

Nine years later, in 1910, the first airplane flight in Minnesota history
took place at the fairgrounds.

[Me again. What did they do? Ship the plane in on the train, then assemble
it on the grounds???]


Montblack

 




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