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![]() "George Patterson" wrote in message news:79uQe.2271$LK.187@trndny09... Steven P. McNicoll wrote: A Near Midair Collision (NMAC) is "an incident involving one or more aircraft in which a hazard or a perceived potential hazard to safety is involved." In that case, we have a NMAC here because the MD-80 pilot perceived a potential hazard to safety. George Patterson Actually, what we have is a a report of a NMAC. During the subsequent investigation, the MD80 pilot's perception of the potential hazard to safety, based apparently on his TCAS interpretation of the event, will probably not correlate with the voice and radar tapes, nor with the witness reports from ATC and the Learjet crew. The AAL was heading 150 at 6000. The Learjet was launching out of BOS on a 070 heading climbing to 5000. Visual contact was aquired between the Lear and the MD80. The controller used correct phraseology to provide for visual separation. The MD80 driver starts an on-air ****ing contest with the Lear driver. "That's bogus. You were 300 feet below us." How does he know the Lear was 300 feet below him? TCAS. And why does it matter? The Learjet was the maneuvering aircraft, and climbing visually through the MD80. The vertical distance between aircraft is irrelevent to flight safety in this event. A risk of collision did not actually exist. In my view, this situation will not be elevated into an NMAC incident because it does not meet the definition of anything other than a "No Hazzard" event. The MD80 did not have to maneuver to avoid the Learjet. Even if he had maneuvered, he couldn't have hit the Learjet with a sidewinder. The Learjet was maneuvering on a visual separation climb clearance under positive ATC control. The weather was VFR. The Bankair was turned behind the AAL before the visual sep clearance was issued. Doesn't sound hazardous except maybe to the TCAS on the MD80. A risk of collision did not actually exist. More than likely, this event at BOS will not be classified as an NMAC incident, but rather as a non-hazardous event. Chip, ZTL |
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