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On 2005-08-29, Dan Luke wrote:

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

--
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Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Well, at least "some" we
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/photos_ts/mdf47701

Marco



"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2005-08-29, Dan Luke wrote:

ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"



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In a previous article, "Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com said:
Well, at least "some" we
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/photos_ts/mdf47701

And on-topic:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/u...3.jim.jiao.jpg


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"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

Yes. If it had come ashore with a central pressure of 902 mb, things
could have been far worse than even the catastrophic damage we are
seeing.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Andrew drove a major upgrading of Florida building codes to make
structures more hurricane resistant. After the 2004 season, you could
easily spot in aerial photographs pre and post Andrew neighborhoods and
developments. Considering that New Orleans and surrounding area is for
the most part not recent construction, all is certainly possible.

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that
would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

Fortunately, it seems to have lost strength when it made landfall.

Yes. If it had come ashore with a central pressure of 902 mb, things
could have been far worse than even the catastrophic damage we are
seeing.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On 2005-08-30, Dan Luke wrote:

"Dylan Smith" wrote:
ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Bull****.

Not at all. If the hurricane had remained a category 5 storm,
overpressures of 4-5 psi could be expected. This is sufficient to
destroy
a timber frame building. It's about equivalent to the blast that would
be felt about 2.5 miles from a 100kt nuclear explosion.

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.
It is freakishly spotty even in a very bad storm.

In a city below sea level? Imagine if it had hit as a Category 5 storm
with a central pressure of 902mb - it's not just the wind, it's the deep
floodwaters being driven by these savage winds too. The floodwaters will
easily see off any building that the winds didn't. Even if a flooded
timber frame building manages to survive being lashed by Category 5
winds and 18 feet of flood water, when the water recedes (weeks later!)
it'll have to be pulled down anyway. A building that is so badly damaged
that it needs to be demolished is effectively destroyed.

If it takes as long as some of the doomsayers are saying to drain the
flooded parts of the city, I suspect most of the houses currently
flooded to roof level aren't going to be structurally sound.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Dylan Smith" wrote:

If it takes as long as some of the doomsayers are saying to drain the
flooded parts of the city, I suspect most of the houses currently
flooded to roof level aren't going to be structurally sound.

The Mayor was on CNN last night and seems to be in some sort of denial.
He said his original estimate of eight weeks to return to some semblance
of normalcy might have to be extended to twelve!

The governor looks like she has a better understanding of how colossal
the disaster is--she looks like she's in shock.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:

The Mayor was on CNN last night and seems to be in some sort of denial.
He said his original estimate of eight weeks to return to some semblance
of normalcy might have to be extended to twelve!

He used to run the Cox cable system there...

The governor looks like she has a better understanding of how colossal
the disaster is--she looks like she's in shock.

She was pretty emotional, near breakdown many times yesterday in the
interview with the senators, fema and corps personel...

Gotta plug the leaks, thats first priority, otherwise everybody out...

Dan Luke wrote:

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.

Well, we had 90% destruction where the center hit, so I'd say that "all" would
be correct.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

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Dan Luke wrote:

Well, it says, "ALL." Hurricane damage simply doesn't work that way.

Well, we had 90% destruction where the center hit, so I'd say that
"all" would be correct.

No, we didn't. Leaving aside the obvious fact that 90% does not = 100%,
we had 90% destruction in *some* areas where the center hit, not all.
Even in Gulfport and Long Beach, MS, the hardest hit cities, many wood
frame buildings have survived.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM