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Old August 30th 05, 09:39 PM
sfb
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Don't plan on it. I saw one blurb saying it would be a month before they
will let residents back into town. The pumps can handle about 1" of rain
an hour. So they have to close the holes in the dikes, get power back to
the pumps, start pumping, and then start cleaning.

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Any wagers on whether the National Business Aviation Association
convention is still be a "GO" for November 3-5 in New Orleans?



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Old August 30th 05, 09:58 PM
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sfb wrote:
I saw one blurb saying it would be a month before they
will let residents back into town.


Bet they'll have even more trouble getting people to leave the next time they
want to evacuate someplace. AP is saying less than a week.

The pumps can handle about 1" of rain
an hour. So they have to close the holes in the dikes, get power back to
the pumps, start pumping, and then start cleaning.


While they're closing holes in the dikes, they'll be bringing in additional
pumps, some of which will have their own power supplies. Any major port will
have many of these.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Old August 30th 05, 10:19 PM
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"George Patterson" wrote:

While they're closing holes in the dikes, they'll be bringing in
additional pumps, some of which will have their own power supplies.
Any major port will have many of these.


On Interstate-10 in Mobile this morning, I saw at least a dozen Corps of
Engineers disaster response 18-wheelers headed west.

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Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old August 30th 05, 10:35 PM
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George Patterson wrote:
sfb wrote:
I saw one blurb saying it would be a month before they
will let residents back into town.


Bet they'll have even more trouble getting people to leave the next time they
want to evacuate someplace. AP is saying less than a week.


Normally I'd agree but this one was a real doozy- if you didn't get out
when you could, you'd be damn lucky to make it. If anything I think it
makes people take the orders more seriously. The real risk is
scrambling everybody and then having the thing go "poof" and just knock
over a few trees. Imagine if there were another 1m people in New
Orleans- we'd be looking at tsunami-scale casualties.

-cwk.

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Old August 31st 05, 12:20 AM
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Bet they'll have even more trouble getting people to leave the next time they
want to evacuate someplace. AP is saying less than a week.


I don't think so.
The people in Florida learned some hard lessons last year.
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Old August 31st 05, 03:57 AM
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I doubt that there are very many portable pumps with 6' piping. That's what
they have at the levees into Pontchatrain, lots of them.

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sfb wrote:
I saw one blurb saying it would be a month before they will let residents
back into town.


Bet they'll have even more trouble getting people to leave the next time
they want to evacuate someplace. AP is saying less than a week.

The pumps can handle about 1" of rain
an hour. So they have to close the holes in the dikes, get power back to
the pumps, start pumping, and then start cleaning.


While they're closing holes in the dikes, they'll be bringing in
additional pumps, some of which will have their own power supplies. Any
major port will have many of these.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.



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Old August 31st 05, 04:14 AM
George Patterson
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:
I doubt that there are very many portable pumps with 6' piping.


I doubt that too; the ones with which I'm familiar tended to be 14" or smaller.
The larger ones with which I've dealt are not designed to be portable (they're
self-contained gasoline or diesel fire protection system pumps), but a small
crane can place one on a flatbed in jig time. They don't have to hook up to the
existing plumbing. Drop your inlet in on one side and drop your discharge line
on the lake side. Again, the pieces for this (including inlet screens) are
readily available in the fire protection world. One of the larger units can pump
water ten stories up through a 12" main.

In any case, as I said, any major port will have large portable pumps. The
largest are used for salvage operations.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
 




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