DG-400 Oxygen Bottle Problems

you can Hydro test anything.......even a Pepsi can.......but you cannot
legally fill oxygen bottles in the USA without the DOT approval and stamp.
tim

"Gary Evans" wrote in message
...
German 02 bottles can be hydro tested at the following
facility. Just had mine done and the cost was $47.50
plus shipping.

TYM's
414 West Arbor Vitae Street
Inglewood, Ca 90301
310-673-3330
Fax 310-673-0580



At 18:18 30 August 2005, wrote:
The only test and recertification station to serve
Utah refuses to test
and fill the german factory bottles for the DG-400
since they do not
have a USA DOT stamp on them. The official regulations
(which he
showed me) state that foreign bottles without the DOT
stamp can only be
tested for 'EXPORT' use. ie, airliner, ship, etc....leaving
the USA
for its use. Oxygen suppliers theoretically should
not even be filling
the bottles without the DOT stamp on them. I got two
bottles out of
date and the last one nearing out of date ( so far
I have local
airports filling them if the date stamp is ok, they
don't know about
the DOT stamp requirement regarding refills.) On the
DG-400 as most of
you know the bottle which has a smaller diameter than
USA bottles and
fits in a fiberglass sleeve that threads its way from
the cockpit past
the fuel tank without much room to spare. 90% of my
flight time is on
Oxygen in the Rockies so it is getting critical to
solve this stalmate
with oxygen bottle testing. DG-400 owners, what are
you doing to solve
this problem???

I'd be interested in seeing a link to that rule. My inderstanding was
that it was illegal to transport uncertified cylinders not that it was
illegal to fill them. What is the jurisdiction of DOT? One advantage
of a self-serve club oxygen system I suppose.

Andy

until your inspection date runs out.. and then how do you pass the annual
condition inspection for the glider?

B

"Andy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'd be interested in seeing a link to that rule. My inderstanding was
that it was illegal to transport uncertified cylinders not that it was
illegal to fill them. What is the jurisdiction of DOT? One advantage
of a self-serve club oxygen system I suppose.

Andy

Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh

Al




BTIZ wrote:
until your inspection date runs out.. and then how do you pass the annual
condition inspection for the glider?

B

"Andy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'd be interested in seeing a link to that rule. My inderstanding was
that it was illegal to transport uncertified cylinders not that it was
illegal to fill them. What is the jurisdiction of DOT? One advantage
of a self-serve club oxygen system I suppose.

Andy

so putting it back in should make your insurance invalid and the annual.

Doh

Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh

"Mal" wrote in message
news
so putting it back in should make your insurance invalid and the annual.

Doh

Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh


When you reinstall the bottle just call it "baggage".

Duane

Duane Eisenbeiss wrote:


so putting it back in should make your insurance invalid and the annual.

Doh


Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh



When you reinstall the bottle just call it "baggage".

I might be wrong, but I thought that is exactly what it was all the
time. I don't know of any glider with a certified oxygen installation,
so we all carry oxygen as "portable" equipment. As such, it does not
need FAA inspection and does not affect the aircraft airworthiness
anymore than a flashlight or handheld GPS you carry in the glider.

The problem isn't the FAA, but the DOT requirements. I'm not familiar
with the DOT details, but prudence suggests having the bottle tested
periodically, even if you can get it filled without the DOT stamp.

I avoid the hassle and expense of commercial filling by owning two
glider bottles, which gives me plenty of time to get one filled while
the other is in use. I fill the bottles myself from larger tank that
will allow several refills to 75% or more capacity. The tank is small
enough that I can easily carry it with me on extended soaring trips;
however, the two glider bottles are enough for a week of flying with my
EDS controller.

If you do decide to fill your bottles yourself, be sure to learn how to
do it safely and get the right lines/hoses/valves. Improper equipment
can lead to fires and explosions (been there, watched it done). It is
possible to do it wrong, but done right, it's easy and safe.

--
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

could be true?

"Mal" wrote in message
news
so putting it back in should make your insurance invalid and the annual.

Doh

Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh

Al.... Al.. Al... I did not want to say it out loud... LOL

BT

wrote in message
oups.com...
Take to bottle out at annual inspection!!

duh

Al




BTIZ wrote:
until your inspection date runs out.. and then how do you pass the annual
condition inspection for the glider?

B

"Andy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'd be interested in seeing a link to that rule. My inderstanding was
that it was illegal to transport uncertified cylinders not that it was
illegal to fill them. What is the jurisdiction of DOT? One advantage
of a self-serve club oxygen system I suppose.

Andy

how do you fill them if you can't transport them? isn't flying a glider, or
trailering a glider also transporting????
tim

"Andy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'd be interested in seeing a link to that rule. My inderstanding was
that it was illegal to transport uncertified cylinders not that it was
illegal to fill them. What is the jurisdiction of DOT? One advantage
of a self-serve club oxygen system I suppose.

Andy