While we're talking about Garmin GPS

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I presume you mean non-radar full position reports. That is where having
the
route as a flight plan would be quite useful.


In that case you'd just report the compulsory reporting points and any
non-compulsory reporting points as instructed by ATC as you encountered
them.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

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I presume you mean non-radar full position reports. That is where having
the
route as a flight plan would be quite useful.


In that case you'd just report the compulsory reporting points and any
non-compulsory reporting points as instructed by ATC as you encountered
them.

And, that is where having the route as a flight plan loaded into the Garmin
would be useful.

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And, that is where having the route as a flight plan loaded into the
Garmin
would be useful.


Since all the necessary information is provided by the more traditional nav
gear, just how is it useful to load the flight plan into the Garmin?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

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And, that is where having the route as a flight plan loaded into the
Garmin
would be useful.


Since all the necessary information is provided by the more traditional nav
gear, just how is it useful to load the flight plan into the Garmin?

It provides an electronic "how goes it" log and ensures you fly legs rather
than direct-to. When the new "G" capstone routes in SE Alaska fire up, there
won't be any underlying VOR route structure, so it will become even more useful
to have a flight plan loaded.

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It provides an electronic "how goes it" log and ensures you fly legs
rather than direct-to.


As does the more traditional nav gear. So nothing is gained by having the
route as a flight plan loaded into the Garmin.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:


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It provides an electronic "how goes it" log and ensures you fly legs
rather than direct-to.


As does the more traditional nav gear. So nothing is gained by having the
route as a flight plan loaded into the Garmin.

When you're *at* a waypoint, it shouldn't make a difference by which means
you've identified the waypoint. You're there. That's what you report.

As I understand this conversation, it's when you're not at a way point that
this discussion rears its head.

However, that does beg the question: on an IFR flight, when would you report
your position while not at a waypoint? I suppose ATC might ask for some
unknown reason (RADAR failure, and shifting into non-RADAR mode, perhaps?),
but I've never experienced that myself.

- Andrew

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When you're *at* a waypoint, it shouldn't make a difference by which means
you've identified the waypoint. You're there. That's what you report.

As I understand this conversation, it's when you're not at a way point
that
this discussion rears its head.

However, that does beg the question: on an IFR flight, when would you
report
your position while not at a waypoint? I suppose ATC might ask for some
unknown reason (RADAR failure, and shifting into non-RADAR mode,
perhaps?),
but I've never experienced that myself.


We're on an airway in a nonradar environment. The GPS provides no more
information than the more traditional nav gear.