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Old September 2nd 05, 08:35 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:34:04 -0700, dunkthegeek wrote:

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Many CHOSE to stay? These are poor people without cars or poorly working
cars. They weren't offered a bus/train ride to a shelter above sea
level. The only ppl that could get away was well off people who could
pack up their SUV and go rent a motel room for 50$/night. I don't recall
too much warning over the levies breaking before Katrina hit. A few did
say it could. But it wasn't impressed on the population that they would
be underwater for several weeks.


Reports from those that lived in the area immediately prior to the storm
hitting state that at both the city and state level, local media made it
known that those that could not afford to leave would have transportation
provided. All they needed to do was either make a phone call to establish
a pickup point or go to one of the previously established pickup points.
With something as simple as a phone call, many, many people could have
been bussed to much safer areas before the storm ever hit.

The above information was tactfully repeated, by the head of FEMA in
several interviews. This is why aid is so slow because FEMA never
expected so many people to willingly choose to stay in the area. This is
direct from the head of FEMA.

Between hearing news reports from people that actually lived there and
hearing the head of FEMA state as much, I'm apt to believe things could of
been much, much better for everyone is people would have simply picked up
a dang phone.


Greg
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Old September 2nd 05, 09:19 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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Greg Copeland wrote:

I'm apt to believe things could of been much, much better for everyone
is people would have simply picked up a dang phone.


Poor people have phones? Must be what keeps 'em poor...
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Old September 2nd 05, 10:02 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:19:44 -0500, Darrel Toepfer wrote:

Greg Copeland wrote:

I'm apt to believe things could of been much, much better for everyone
is people would have simply picked up a dang phone.


Poor people have phones? Must be what keeps 'em poor...


I didn't say "their phone", I said, "a dang phone". Meaning, any phone
would do. Phones are not exactly hard to come by if someone is really
determined to make a call.

Greg

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Old September 2nd 05, 10:06 PM
Gig 601XL Builder
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"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:19:44 -0500, Darrel Toepfer wrote:

Greg Copeland wrote:

I'm apt to believe things could of been much, much better for everyone
is people would have simply picked up a dang phone.


Poor people have phones? Must be what keeps 'em poor...


I didn't say "their phone", I said, "a dang phone". Meaning, any phone
would do. Phones are not exactly hard to come by if someone is really
determined to make a call.

Greg


I bet Darrel would be surprised how many of the poor people have not only
phones but also cell phones.


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Old September 5th 05, 04:34 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

I bet Darrel would be surprised how many of the poor people have not only
phones but also cell phones.


I used to be in a very competitive pager and later cabletv business
(only overbuilt community in LA), in the end poor people don't pay their
bills. In the long run a pay-as-you-geaux cellphone is probably cheaper
than having a hardwired one...

Its amazing how expert usenet posters are about conditions over here,
through watching teevee. I've lived here all my life except for 3 of my
46 years. It doesn't take a flood or hurricane to kill people over here..

Hail to the arm-chair quarterbacks of rec.aviation
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Old September 2nd 05, 10:55 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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Greg Copeland wrote:

I didn't say "their phone", I said, "a dang phone". Meaning, any phone
would do. Phones are not exactly hard to come by if someone is really
determined to make a call.


Not alot of payphones left in Louisiana, Bellsouth has removed them due
to lack of usage, or the police have requested their removal due to drug
deals. Most businesses don't allow people off the street to use their
phone. How well do you kneaux your neighbors?
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Old September 2nd 05, 11:09 PM
W P Dixon
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I believe pay phones are disappearing because even poor people have cell
phones. I know alot of people that have a cell phone but do not have a
regular phone in the house..because the cell phone plan is cheaper. And
these folks ain't rich

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Greg Copeland wrote:

I didn't say "their phone", I said, "a dang phone". Meaning, any phone
would do. Phones are not exactly hard to come by if someone is really
determined to make a call.


Not alot of payphones left in Louisiana, Bellsouth has removed them due to
lack of usage, or the police have requested their removal due to drug
deals. Most businesses don't allow people off the street to use their
phone. How well do you kneaux your neighbors?


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Old September 3rd 05, 01:07 AM
Newps
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W P Dixon wrote:
I believe pay phones are disappearing because even poor people have cell
phones. I know alot of people that have a cell phone but do not have a
regular phone in the house..because the cell phone plan is cheaper. And
these folks ain't rich


It will be three years in October since I got rid of my landline phone.
I just decided I wasn't going to pay those taxes anymore. For about
the last year I have had an internet phone from Vonage. It costs me
about $17 a month and the area code for that phone is from the St. Paul,
MN; area(651) so all of our relatives can call us toll free.
Unbelievable how well it works.
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Old September 3rd 05, 02:20 AM
john smith
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Newps wrote:
It will be three years in October since I got rid of my landline phone.
I just decided I wasn't going to pay those taxes anymore. For about
the last year I have had an internet phone from Vonage. It costs me
about $17 a month and the area code for that phone is from the St. Paul,
MN; area(651) so all of our relatives can call us toll free.
Unbelievable how well it works.


How do you contact 911 when the broadband goes out?
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Old September 6th 05, 10:04 PM
Terry Briggs
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The pay phones don't have to be removed - just remove the ability to make
incoming calls. Slows the drug dealers quite a bit.

The phones are removed because of little use. (And makes folks buy cell
phones which make more money for the companies.)


"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Greg Copeland wrote:

I didn't say "their phone", I said, "a dang phone". Meaning, any phone
would do. Phones are not exactly hard to come by if someone is really
determined to make a call.


Not alot of payphones left in Louisiana, Bellsouth has removed them due to
lack of usage, or the police have requested their removal due to drug
deals. Most businesses don't allow people off the street to use their
phone. How well do you kneaux your neighbors?



 




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