Katrina fall-out

Larry Dighera wrote in message ...
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:30:38 GMT, john smith wrote in
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Sitting up there on the airplane and looking out the window was
terrible. And the three days of doing nothing, really, on Bush was
terrible. And even today, I found myself, as you know, I support his
politics quite often.

DAVID BROOKS: Look at him today earlier in the program, this is how
Mark Shields must feel looking at him, I'm angry at the guy and maybe
it will pass for me. But a lot of people and a lot of Republicans are
furious right now.

There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly condemned.
There has been harsh condemnation for him showing up at the site, when his
choppers could be used for rescue efforts. The same would be true for any
President. It's just too bad the NOLA Mayor didn't call for evacuation
sooner, and didn't carry out the plans that were in place.

http://tinyurl.com/crkal
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...8/112523994020
1382.xml&story
list=louisiana
"Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said
President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for
the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding."

NOLA Emergency plans:
http://tinyurl.com/94wrz
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26

These buses could have been used, along with city buses:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lpc21109012015

- Rick

When the mandatory evacuation was ordered on Sunday, the school bus
drivers left town.

The fault really lies with the state as evacuation is a regional
problem. Orleans Parish (New Orleans) has a population of 485K .
Jefferson Parish across the Mississippi and actually south of the city
is 455K. The Interstates which should be the main road out are on the
New Orleans side of the river.

"Rick" wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote in message ...
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:30:38 GMT, john smith wrote in
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[snip]

Sitting up there on the airplane and looking out the window was
terrible. And the three days of doing nothing, really, on Bush was
terrible. And even today, I found myself, as you know, I support his
politics quite often.

DAVID BROOKS: Look at him today earlier in the program, this is how
Mark Shields must feel looking at him, I'm angry at the guy and maybe
it will pass for me. But a lot of people and a lot of Republicans are
furious right now.

There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly
condemned.
There has been harsh condemnation for him showing up at the site, when
his
choppers could be used for rescue efforts. The same would be true for
any
President. It's just too bad the NOLA Mayor didn't call for evacuation
sooner, and didn't carry out the plans that were in place.

http://tinyurl.com/crkal
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...8/112523994020
1382.xml&story
list=louisiana
"Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference,
said
President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory
evacuation for
the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding."

NOLA Emergency plans:
http://tinyurl.com/94wrz
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26

These buses could have been used, along with city buses:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lpc21109012015

- Rick

On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:16:17 -0500, "Rick"
wrote in
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There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly condemned.

I doubt he would have been condemned for taking an interest in the
disaster area a few days earlier.

He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. How much earlier do you
want him to take an interest?

Whether the orders were effective soon enough is obviously open to
debate, but the Federal government did start the ball rolling before the
disaster.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:16:17 -0500, "Rick"
wrote in
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There's not one thing Bush could do that could not be harshly
condemned.

I doubt he would have been condemned for taking an interest in the
disaster area a few days earlier.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in
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He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

When did he personally inspect the area?

Are you suggesting the Federal government is totally incapable of action
without the President looking over everybody's shoulders? The single
most important thing a President can do is issue the go order which was
done long before the actual disaster.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in
_PqSe.917$9q4.789@trnddc08::

He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal
disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

When did he personally inspect the area?

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in
_PqSe.917$9q4.789@trnddc08::


He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.


When did he personally inspect the area?

That's pathetic.

Larry Dighera wrote in message ...
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in
_PqSe.917$9q4.789@trnddc08::

He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

When did he personally inspect the area?

Do you mean when did he stage photo-ops and interrupt rescue operations with
his presence?

- Rick

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:02:02 GMT, "sfb" wrote in
_PqSe.917$9q4.789@trnddc08::

He signed the orders declaring the states eligible for Federal disaster
aid the week before Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

When did he personally inspect the area?

Just exactly what do you think the presidential inspection accomplishes in
REAL terms with regard to helping out and solving problems?

The President (no matter who it is) gets all the reports he/she needs to
determine the severity of the problems.

The presidential fly by is nothing more than an attempt to quiet the morons
who think that UNLESS the presidents fly over the area and sees it for
themselves, they don't care. It's the aerial equivalent of biting one's lip
and announcing that they feel your pain.

It contributes NOTHING to solving the problems. In fact it's a hideous waste
of valuable time.


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Larry Dighera wrote:
When did he personally inspect the area?

gregg wrote:
Just exactly what do you think the presidential inspection accomplishes in
REAL terms with regard to helping out and solving problems?
The President (no matter who it is) gets all the reports he/she needs to
determine the severity of the problems.
The presidential fly by is nothing more than an attempt to quiet the morons
who think that UNLESS the presidents fly over the area and sees it for
themselves, they don't care. It's the aerial equivalent of biting one's lip
and announcing that they feel your pain.
It contributes NOTHING to solving the problems. In fact it's a hideous waste
of valuable time.

This morning on ABC, they played a video made earlier this week of
George Stephanopolas riding in an S-76 flying around the New Orleans
ares with Louisiana Senator Andrews (?).
She was blaming all of New Orleans and Louisiana's ills on the Bush
administration.
She complained about his visit earlier this week and how it was just a
photo op.
She said Bush should come ride with her so she can show him the real
disaster area. (Sounds like someone wants a photo op with the President?
"That's right Mr and Ms Louisiana voter, that was me with the President
during our hour of need!")
Part of the tour included her property an area on a point of land where
she had been staying prior to the hurricane. She kept calling a "camp".
All the "camps" on this point of land were high priced year round homes.
She said some of them were worth over a million dollars. Each had their
own 300 foot sea wall/dock.
Her home was destroyed, as were most of the others that had been built
on slabs. Those homes built on stilts were intact with minimum damage,
as were the boathouses.