Hurricane relief

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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They would have had access to emergency medical treatment except
they attempted to hijack ambulances and loot hospitals.

Are those two "they"s meant to be the same? That is, are you claiming that
all--or even a nontrivial fraction--of the people who lacked access to
emergency medical treatment are the same people who had attempted to hijack
ambulences or loot hospitals? Presumably not; there's no evidence to support
such a claim.

What then *do* you mean? That "they" who couldn't get emergency care had the
same skin color as "they" who hijacked ambulences, so that you feel entitled
to just refer to all of "them" interchangeably? Because I really don't see
any other way to parse what you wrote.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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They would have had access to emergency medical treatment except
they attempted to hijack ambulances and loot hospitals.

Are those two "they"s meant to be the same? That is, are you claiming that
all--or even a nontrivial fraction--of the people who lacked access to
emergency medical treatment are the same people who had attempted to
hijack
ambulences or loot hospitals? Presumably not; there's no evidence to
support
such a claim.

'They' as in residents of NO. Instead of pulling together and helping each
other many of 'them' decided to act like animals preventing the rest of
'them' from receiving the help 'they' needed. Why is it 'they' didn't go
out and help their fellow citizens instead of looting and committing other
crimes?

What then *do* you mean? That "they" who couldn't get emergency care had
the
same skin color as "they" who hijacked ambulences, so that you feel
entitled
to just refer to all of "them" interchangeably? Because I really don't see
any other way to parse what you wrote.

You spend way too much time listening to Jesse and Al.

--Gary

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
m...
'They' as in residents of NO.

Really? Let's do a quick thought experiment. Imagine if the (tens of
thousands of) people who couldn't get medical care were all white, and the
(handful of) attempted ambulence hijackers were all black. Would you still
have said of the residents of N.O. in general, "They would have had access
to emergency medical treatment except they attempted to hijack ambulances
and loot hospitals."? That is, would you still have phrased it in a way that
falsely suggests that the victims somehow had themselves to blame for the
hijacking attempts?

Why is it 'they' didn't go out and help their fellow citizens
instead of looting and committing other crimes?

What on earth leads you to assume that the vast majority did not in fact
help one another rather than committing crimes?

--Gary

What on earth leads you to assume that the vast majority did not in fact
help one another rather than committing crimes?

What's kind of interesting, in this whole thing, is that CNN (the supposed
"liberal" news outlet ) has been showing endless video of blacks looting and
shouting gibberish at the cameras, essentially since "Day One." It's hard
to imagine black people being presented in a worse light.

Fox News, on the other hand (the supposed "conservative" news outlet) has
been showing the same footage, but also spending many more hours covering
the *positive* aspects of the disaster recovery, showing all of the good
people who have pulled together in the face of adversity.

(This coverage tactic, by the way, mirrors Fox's coverage of the war in
Iraq -- the same coverage that has infuriated the Left as being "namby
pamby" war coverage. It seems that they always try to show one good thing
for each bad thing they cover -- although I have no idea if that's a
conscious decision, or just my impression. )

Sadly, I know all of this because I just spent the last 3 days dealing with
my mother-in-law's death, which meant endless hours sitting in hotel rooms
and FBOs, watching wall-to-wall Katrina coverage... Regardless, I find it
fascinating that the "Conservative Channel" has been much more positive
about the way Louisiana and Mississippi residents have been handling their
disaster.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

What's kind of interesting, in this whole thing, is that CNN (the supposed
"liberal" news outlet ) has been showing endless video of blacks looting and
shouting gibberish at the cameras, essentially since "Day One." It's hard
to imagine black people being presented in a worse light.

That fellow who killfiled you was correct, you are a racist. It
speaks volumes that you see black people shouting at cameras but all
you can hear is "gibberish". Do they also all look the same to you?
For your information, that shouting was a desperate plea for food and
water. I heard it quite clearly. That you choose to characterize
their pleas as "gibberish" is classically racist. You are a
despicable character.

That fellow who killfiled you was correct, you are a racist. It
speaks volumes that you see black people shouting at cameras but all
you can hear is "gibberish". Do they also all look the same to you?
For your information, that shouting was a desperate plea for food and
water. I heard it quite clearly. That you choose to characterize
their pleas as "gibberish" is classically racist. You are a
despicable character.

And you, sir, are a moron.

This isn't a black issue at all -- which, if you were able to actually
follow a thread from start to finish, you would already know.

In a past career I worked extensively in the inner city -- have you? Have
you *seen* the poverty of the underclass? Have you tasted the desperation
of an entire class of people that has been dependent on the government teat
for generations?

If not, shut the f*ck up. You know NOTHING of what you're talking about.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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If not, shut the f*ck up. " Jay Honeck

NOW you've done it!!! I was afraid of this.......and it's MY fault!!!!!!.
My wife says I'm a bad influence on you. Does your lovely bride know about
this? Where is she? I hope she's away from the computer screen. You have to
be careful she doesn't find out. You could find yourself in REAL hot water
about this you know. :-)))
Actually, it's not too bad yet. I see my influence hasn't completely
destroyed you . Somehow, you managed to insert that single asterisk. If you
were at my level of total Usenet destruction, ALL the letters would be
there....and in CAPS!!!!
This shows my influence on you hasn't quite reached the last stage of total
Usenet destruction and you can still deal with the idiots on Usenet one step
above my level of "no asterisks at all".
You can still be saved if you stop this instant; tell the front desk clerk
to take over, get away from the keyboard, smile at the guests as you leave
the front office, go over to the airport and get in the Cherokee, take off,
, climb to 5000 feet and open the vents wide. Take a deep breath and count
to 100 slowly. Now come on back to the hotel and tell your wife you are VERY
sorry you said this awful word. She will understand that this single
incident of bad behavior was the result of you being exposed to me and she
will forgive you.
Just remember.......If you keep this up, our wives won't let us play
together any more!!!!! :-)))))
Dudley

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

This isn't a black issue at all.

"At all"?? Your categorical statement reveals both denial and
ignorance.

In a past career I worked extensively in the inner city -- have you?

LOL! I have known a number of people who have worked in the inner
city. Many of them emerged even more racist than before they went in.
Your experience in the inner city can not be offered up as evidence
against racism, nor can it be offered up as evidence of some special
understanding. You clearly have no special understanding; You see
desperate cries for help and all you hear is "gibberish". As others
have correctly noted, you words reek of racism.

"TL" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

What's kind of interesting, in this whole thing, is that CNN (the supposed
"liberal" news outlet ) has been showing endless video of blacks looting
and
shouting gibberish at the cameras, essentially since "Day One." It's hard
to imagine black people being presented in a worse light.

That fellow who killfiled you was correct, you are a racist.

Idiot. Misinterpretation is borderline stupid. Failure to learn history,
in this case, the OP's is moronic. Rome was saved by the cackling of its
faithful geese Your efforts are, at once, boring and wasted.

moo

Jay Honeck wrote:


Sadly, I know all of this because I just spent the last 3 days dealing
with my mother-in-law's death, which meant endless hours sitting in hotel
rooms

My deepest condolences, Jay.

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