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W P Dixon wrote:
Yep,
See why I drive 5 hours to go fly with them? Before it's all over I
will fly the Stearman and will do spin training as well. Just simple
flying at it's best, a grass field in real good shape,...and close
enough to "things to do for the family" Pretty much decided to get
checked out in the Cub after I get done with the Champ. I sure can't
find anywhere cheaper, and I sure can not find those planes to rent
within a days drive

Don't forget to make a skydive and get an hour of glider instruction
while you are there! :-))

I tell you!,
Listening to some of the folks on here talk about flying gliders , I
really can see that as being part of my personal training agenda. Hey I may
only going to be a sport pilot, and they have their standards of 15 duel and
5 solo. But I really do not care about the standards in hours. I will be a
good pilot when I am done. Thus serious tailwheel training,...even will go
to St Louis and do a Luscombe checkout when the time comes. Spin training is
on the agenda with some aero, and I really have to consider the benefits to
be gained from the experience of gliders..really think it would just do alot
to improve anyones skills who has never spent time in one. The same can be
said for a taildragger !
Sky-diving OH I AM GAME FOR THAT!!!!!! I used to love repelling from
choppers in the Corps, and tried and tried to get them to send me to jump
school! I'd love it. Oh geesh another expensive hobby for my broke butt!!!
HAHAHAHAHA It would be alot of fun to try at least once though! I do kinda
worry about the impact on my leg?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"john smith" wrote in message
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W P Dixon wrote:
Yep,
See why I drive 5 hours to go fly with them? Before it's all over I
will fly the Stearman and will do spin training as well. Just simple
flying at it's best, a grass field in real good shape,...and close enough
to "things to do for the family" Pretty much decided to get checked out
in the Cub after I get done with the Champ. I sure can't find anywhere
cheaper, and I sure can not find those planes to rent within a days drive


Don't forget to make a skydive and get an hour of glider instruction while
you are there! :-))

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:41:14 -0700, unicate wrote:

the SuperCub at a
nearby school is $80. Flight instruction is $45/hr.

The Cub is a good deal. Of course a lot depends on the condition. The
local airport has a lease-back on a "glass cockpit" Cessna, which
rents for more than twice what the weary old 172s do.



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$300 an hour for a Pitts??!! Is that for real? Are Pitts' really
commanding that kind of price? Unless the insurance is the same for a 747,
I can't imagine why it would be that much.

Glad I don't have to rent one.

Shawn

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
om...
W P Dixon wrote:
Stearman $132.00 , Citabria $75.00 , Decathlon $118.00 , Pitts $300,
Arrow
$96.00 , C150 $48.00 , C172 $61.00 , Champ $45.00 , Cub $45.00, and last
but
not least Schweizer sailplane $32.00. Red Stewart's Airfield , 4925 North
State Route 42, Waynesville, OH 45068, 513-897-7717 To rent the Cub and
Champ 25,000 hull rental insurance is required. Not sure of the others,
give
them a call. Flight instructors are 27 an hour in case you need a check
out.


Those are really reasonable prices. I'm also impressed with the variety.
The only folks around me that I know of with any real variety are a club
with some rather hefty monthly dues.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

The Pitts is high due to the engine runout I suspect, TBO is so short.

Bush

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:01:29 GMT, "ShawnD2112"
wrote:

$300 an hour for a Pitts??!! Is that for real? Are Pitts' really
commanding that kind of price? Unless the insurance is the same for a 747,
I can't imagine why it would be that much.

Glad I don't have to rent one.

Shawn

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. com...
W P Dixon wrote:
Stearman $132.00 , Citabria $75.00 , Decathlon $118.00 , Pitts $300,
Arrow
$96.00 , C150 $48.00 , C172 $61.00 , Champ $45.00 , Cub $45.00, and last
but
not least Schweizer sailplane $32.00. Red Stewart's Airfield , 4925 North
State Route 42, Waynesville, OH 45068, 513-897-7717 To rent the Cub and
Champ 25,000 hull rental insurance is required. Not sure of the others,
give
them a call. Flight instructors are 27 an hour in case you need a check
out.


Those are really reasonable prices. I'm also impressed with the variety.
The only folks around me that I know of with any real variety are a club
with some rather hefty monthly dues.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Bushleague wrote:
The Pitts is high due to the engine runout I suspect, TBO is so short.

Actual engine TBO for a Pitts used for aerobatics is 600-700 hours.
Factory list TBO is 2000(?)

"john smith" wrote in message
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Bushleague wrote:
The Pitts is high due to the engine runout I suspect, TBO is so short.

Actual engine TBO for a Pitts used for aerobatics is 600-700 hours.
Factory list TBO is 2000(?)

I would think that additional insurance prices would also be necessary to
cover the occasional payout for blotched aerobatics, ending in destruction
of the plane, and occasional demise of the pilot. :-( Add to that, the
tricky ground handling causing ground loops, bent gear, and bent wings, ect.

I could be wrong, then....
Nevermind! :-)
--
Jim in NC

Is it? Why would it be shorter than any other engine TBO? Do you have a
reference? If my engine's running out, I'd like to read up on it and find
out what's different.

Shawn

"Bushleague" wrote in message
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The Pitts is high due to the engine runout I suspect, TBO is so short.

Bush

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:01:29 GMT, "ShawnD2112"
wrote:

$300 an hour for a Pitts??!! Is that for real? Are Pitts' really
commanding that kind of price? Unless the insurance is the same for a
747,
I can't imagine why it would be that much.

Glad I don't have to rent one.

Shawn

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in
message
.com...
W P Dixon wrote:
Stearman $132.00 , Citabria $75.00 , Decathlon $118.00 , Pitts $300,
Arrow
$96.00 , C150 $48.00 , C172 $61.00 , Champ $45.00 , Cub $45.00, and
last
but
not least Schweizer sailplane $32.00. Red Stewart's Airfield , 4925
North
State Route 42, Waynesville, OH 45068, 513-897-7717 To rent the Cub and
Champ 25,000 hull rental insurance is required. Not sure of the others,
give
them a call. Flight instructors are 27 an hour in case you need a check
out.


Those are really reasonable prices. I'm also impressed with the
variety.
The only folks around me that I know of with any real variety are a club
with some rather hefty monthly dues.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Morgans wrote:

I would think that additional insurance prices would also be necessary to
cover the occasional payout for blotched aerobatics, ending in destruction
of the plane, and occasional demise of the pilot. :-( Add to that, the
tricky ground handling causing ground loops, bent gear, and bent wings, ect.

Aerobatics is every bit as safe as flying straight and level, even if
one figure or two go wrong (which inevitably happens when you explore
new maneuvres). Statistically, aerobatics is even safer than "normal"
flight.

Ground handling a Pitts is another thing, though.

Stfan

Actually ,
The airfield owns it's planes and provides it's own insurance.It's a
reason the planes other than the Pitts are so reasonably priced for rental.
Your rental insurance covers the plane, so you are flipping that bill. I
would imagine the Pitts price is due to operating costs. Engine overhauls
and such...and how much does it cost to have chutes repacked ..what is it
like every 90 days or so?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Stefan" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

I would think that additional insurance prices would also be necessary to
cover the occasional payout for blotched aerobatics, ending in
destruction
of the plane, and occasional demise of the pilot. :-( Add to that, the
tricky ground handling causing ground loops, bent gear, and bent wings,
ect.

Aerobatics is every bit as safe as flying straight and level, even if one
figure or two go wrong (which inevitably happens when you explore new
maneuvres). Statistically, aerobatics is even safer than "normal" flight.

Ground handling a Pitts is another thing, though.

Stfan