Hurricane relief

Apparently, in your world, one can not use the word "gibberish" in the
same sentence with the word "black" and not be a racist. That's bull ****!

Thanks, Dudley, for the spirited defense -- but you're ****ing on deadwood
here.

You can't convince the paranoid that we're really not out to get them, any
more than you can change a person's misinterpretation of the English
language. Just imagine if I'd have used a really controversial word, like
"niggardly"!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

These people rankle my shorts. This guy's only an amateur. He just sees
racism where none exists. It's the "professionals" I worry about. These race
hustlers not only find racism where it doesn't exist, they USE it to extort
and intimidate people and government alike. They've split this country right
down the middle with their absolute bull****. What REALLY worries me is a
citizenry so damn ignorant and stupid that they allow these morons to get
away with it.
I distinctly remember one time when I was asked by an operator if I minded
flying with a black co-pilot. The whole damn United States would be wiser if
they heeded my answer to that operator and adopted what I said in their
daily lives. That answer was simply,
" I don't give a rat's ass if the guy's PURPLE as long as he can FLY!"
Dudley Henriques


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:lNCTe.314606$x96.88028@attbi_s72...
Apparently, in your world, one can not use the word "gibberish" in the
same sentence with the word "black" and not be a racist. That's bull
****!

Thanks, Dudley, for the spirited defense -- but you're ****ing on deadwood
here.

You can't convince the paranoid that we're really not out to get them, any
more than you can change a person's misinterpretation of the English
language. Just imagine if I'd have used a really controversial word, like
"niggardly"!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Apparently, in your world, one can not use the word "gibberish" in
the same sentence with the word "black" and not be a racist. That's
bull ****!

Thanks, Dudley, for the spirited defense -- but you're ****ing on
deadwood here.

You can't convince the paranoid that we're really not out to get them,
any more than you can change a person's misinterpretation of the
English language. Just imagine if I'd have used a really
controversial word, like "niggardly"!

Your description of the news coverage was well taken, and you could have
avoided the controversy and made your point just as well by not using
"gibberish" the way you did. Contrary to Dudley and your view of the
subject, when I read your original sentence, I also felt it was
inappropriate.

In the context you used it, it was heavily laden with historic meaning.
You are a northern, white, middle class observer of the southern socio-
economic condition. Whether you intended to or not, many readers will
infer that your view of blacks speaking with a southern dialect is that
they are uneducated, and can't put a coherent sentence together.

As I said earlier, you could have made your point without phrasing
things the way you did. Don't compound your mistake by trying to defend
the use of the word.

"James Robinson" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Apparently, in your world, one can not use the word "gibberish" in
the same sentence with the word "black" and not be a racist. That's
bull ****!

Thanks, Dudley, for the spirited defense -- but you're ****ing on
deadwood here.

You can't convince the paranoid that we're really not out to get them,
any more than you can change a person's misinterpretation of the
English language. Just imagine if I'd have used a really
controversial word, like "niggardly"!

Your description of the news coverage was well taken, and you could have
avoided the controversy and made your point just as well by not using
"gibberish" the way you did. Contrary to Dudley and your view of the
subject, when I read your original sentence, I also felt it was
inappropriate.

In the context you used it, it was heavily laden with historic meaning.
You are a northern, white, middle class observer of the southern socio-
economic condition. Whether you intended to or not, many readers will
infer that your view of blacks speaking with a southern dialect is that
they are uneducated, and can't put a coherent sentence together.

I'm a northern, white, middle class observer of the southern socioeconomic
condition and have no idea where you came up with that conclusion. Ten
bucks says you can't back-up your "many readers......" statement.

"TL" wrote in message news:

Jay wrote, "[CNN] has been showing endless video of blacks looting and
shouting gibberish at the cameras, essentially since "Day One." It's
hard to imagine black people being presented in a worse light."
-- End Quote

Quite telling indeed. Racists watched the news coverage and saw
little more than black people looting and "shouting gibberish at the
cameras." Realists,

Godlike. Did you watch the coverage?

on the other hand, watched the same news coverage
and saw a small percentage of black residents looting while tens of
thousands of law abiding blacks at the convention center made
desperate pleas food and water.

Jay wrote, "It's hard to imagine black people being presented in a
worse light." His, however, is a racist's take not a realist's take.

Hey stoopid! Did you watch the coverage?

What the news coverage presented to the realist was a handful of
lawless among a sea of law abiding citizens doing exactly as
instructed under extremely trying circumstances.

Hey stoopid! Did you watch the coverage? They sure milked the "sea of law
abiding citizens" part for all it was worth. Not. Idiot.

moo

"James Robinson" wrote in message

In the context you used it, it was heavily laden with historic meaning.
You are a northern, white, middle class observer of the southern socio-
economic condition. Whether you intended to or not, many readers will
infer that your view of blacks speaking with a southern dialect is that
they are uneducated, and can't put a coherent sentence together.

Who is CNNs audience? Should they have provided translation?

Dave Stadt wrote:
..

Just remember, if there are no more race relations problems Jesse is out of
a job and out of the TV spotlight. He has no incentive to fix anything.
Making things worse suits him just fine. Spend some time in his home town
if you want real insight into his antics. Often those claiming to be the
uniters and healers are at the top of the racist heap.

All of this may be true. If space aliens invaded the planet, CNN could
count on Jesse Jackson to issue a statement blaming it all on racism.

Nevertheless, just because Jesse Jackson says that racism has played a
part in the suffering in New Orleans does not mean he is wrong. I think
racism has a great deal to do with poverty, ignorance, and the
breakdown of social and family structures in the city. I would even go
so far as to claim that many of these problems stem from people who,
with perfectly good intentions, have been attempting to help people
they genuinely believed incapable of helping themselves. Racism was at
the heart of creating a dependency culture in New Orleans, and this is
the result. Come to think of it, even Jesse Jackson has said something
like that from time to time. Maybe he is a closet conservative. :-)

James Robinson wrote:
Whether you intended to or not, many readers will
infer that your view of blacks speaking with a southern dialect is that
they are uneducated, and can't put a coherent sentence together.

I expect you put your finger on it. Jay can't understand the accent, so normal
English comes across as "gibberish."

Today, NPR interviewed a fireman from the Bronx who was working down there. Now,
*that* was gibberish.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"Happy Dog" wrote:


Quite telling indeed. Racists watched the news coverage and saw
little more than black people looting and "shouting gibberish at the
cameras." Realists, on the other hand, watched the same news coverage
and saw a small percentage of black residents looting while tens of
thousands of law abiding blacks at the convention center made
desperate pleas food and water.

Godlike. Did you watch the coverage?

One doesn't need to be godlike to correctly interpret the coverage.
Informed, realistic, and non-racist would suffice. Obviously, you
lack some combination of the above.

James Robinson wrote:

Your description of the news coverage was well taken, and you could have
avoided the controversy and made your point just as well by not using
"gibberish" the way you did. Contrary to Dudley and your view of the
subject, when I read your original sentence, I also felt it was
inappropriate.

In the context you used it, it was heavily laden with historic meaning.
You are a northern, white, middle class observer of the southern socio-
economic condition. Whether you intended to or not, many readers will
infer that your view of blacks speaking with a southern dialect is that
they are uneducated, and can't put a coherent sentence together.

As I said earlier, you could have made your point without phrasing
things the way you did. Don't compound your mistake by trying to defend
the use of the word.

Thank you, Mr. Robinson.