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Old September 8th 05, 07:01 PM
Dave Butler
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Potato Chip wrote:

My main issue is probably with the high airframe time. I hope to build
time and experience in this plane and then probably sell in 3 to 5
years. The engine will reach its overhaul time in probably another 4
years, about when I want to sell it. It will then have 10,600 hours at
that point, which will have exceeded the 5 figure TTSN number
threshold, which might have a psychological effect for resale.

I appreciate any thoughts you might share!


OK, here are a couple.

- All the issues you mention can be compensated by a suitable price adjustment.

- when you are ready to sell in 3-5 years, your buyers are going to be having
the same reservations that you are having now. That might be enough for me to
give it a pass right there. On the other hand, if I planned to keep it for a
while, it might be OK. IOW, this plane is more attractive to someone who plans
to keep it for a while.

- a leased airplane can be profitable, or can be a miserable experience. A lot
depends on the provisions of the lease contract. Who pays for what? What are you
promising to provide? What's your personal access to the plane? Who pays for
insurance? What is covered by the insurance? Who does the maintenance? Who
decides what maintenance is to be done? If maint is to be done by the lessee and
paid for by the lessor, what's the shop rate? Who can terminate the lease and
under what terms? Who does scheduling? Who decides which pilots are approved?
.... and on and on. Read carefully and remember everything is negotiable. Think
about your personal tolerance for having other people use and abuse your property.
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Old September 8th 05, 07:26 PM
Potato Chip
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I understand that this particular plane has been for sale for a while -
maybe a year. Definitely gives me pause, but the price was much higher
then.

How many TTAF hours can someone reasonably expect from a trainer C172?
Looking around at the ads, I do not see many hours above 10k. I guess
if I knew 20,000 TTAF hours was okay, and this plane is just
middle-aged, then I might consider keeping it longer. However, the FBO
has told me that in 5 to 10 years, they expect to no longer carry
C172's, since they already have many more 172SP's, which are taking
over.

Since I got my private thru the same FBO, I trust them and the people
there a good bit. At this point, the leaseback is probably the least of
my worries. Of course, having a stranger flying my beater airplane is
probably better than having a stranger flying my nice new expensive
172SP!

Jae

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Old September 10th 05, 08:28 AM
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"Potato Chip" wrote in message
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How many TTAF hours can someone reasonably expect from a trainer C172?
Looking around at the ads, I do not see many hours above 10k. I guess
if I knew 20,000 TTAF hours was okay, and this plane is just
middle-aged, then I might consider keeping it longer.

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I have been warned? that there is? may be? will be? could be in future? a
major airframe inspection? rebuilding? AD? SL? required? by Cessna? FAA? at
12 or 13000 hrs. I suggest further research from knowledgeable source.

Happy landings


 




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