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Old December 3rd 03, 09:18 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Tarver Engineering wrote:


"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

Automation increases productivity thereby reducing labor.


This is far from guaranteed, and there are many factors involved that are
relevant to this discussion.


In this spectific case however, Andrew's "factors" are specious.


Unfounded statement with no justification? I see how you've acquired your
reputation.

It is that flight cancelled that costs the most; especially with the
operator having real time weather, but no way to engage ATC in real time
alteration of a flight track. (CONUS)


How do you measure cost? In my mind, a flight lost costs more than a flight
cancelled.

Further, the cost of a cancelled flight is not incurred by ATC, be it
governmental or private. That's yet another problem with attempting to
measure "efficiency": where the benefits and costs are accrued by different
parties.

- Andrew

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Old December 3rd 03, 11:01 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:


"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:

Automation increases productivity thereby reducing labor.

This is far from guaranteed, and there are many factors involved that

are
relevant to this discussion.


In this spectific case however, Andrew's "factors" are specious.


Unfounded statement with no justification? I see how you've acquired your
reputation.


Yep, I don't waste much time on trolls.


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Old December 3rd 03, 11:17 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Tarver Engineering wrote:

Yep, I don't waste much time on trolls.


Laugh

Anyone can lookup my USENET posting history and compare it to your USENET
posting history. I think that trollfulness will out...although I seem to
recall that others have mentioned more mundane interests in your case.

I apologize for accidentally involving you in a rational discussion. Feel
free to ignore anything more I post on any subject. In fact, I recommend
that you killfile me to make your life simplest...but be sure to also
ignore anything posted in reply to something I've written.

I'd rather not threaten your world view even indirectly, but I shan't let
that keep me from the interesting dialogs here.

Now, if someone is seriously interested in regulatory issues and how they
might be reflected in privatized ATC...

- Andrew

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Old December 4th 03, 03:03 AM
Tarver Engineering
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:

Yep, I don't waste much time on trolls.


Laugh

Anyone can lookup my USENET posting history and compare it to your USENET
posting history. I think that trollfulness will out...although I seem to
recall that others have mentioned more mundane interests in your case.

I apologize for accidentally involving you in a rational discussion. Feel
free to ignore anything more I post on any subject. In fact, I recommend
that you killfile me to make your life simplest...but be sure to also
ignore anything posted in reply to something I've written.


I did not find your discussion rational.

I'd rather not threaten your world view even indirectly, but I shan't let
that keep me from the interesting dialogs here.


You aren't a rude troll, so I don't see why you should have to leave.

Now, if someone is seriously interested in regulatory issues and how they
might be reflected in privatized ATC...


That all depends now on how Federal ATC co-operates with change.


 




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