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Old September 10th 05, 10:49 PM
Peter Duniho
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"gregg" wrote in message
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Are you of the opinion that the amount of resources necessary to transmit
a
150 or so line post to thousands of servers is somehow debilitating to the
system in a major way? Do you think that you, personally, would see a
major difference in server performance?


Most posts are not trimmed. If they were, the bandwidth required to carry
the non-binary Usenet newsgroups would probably drop by half or more.

It is each individual, thinking the way you do, that adds up to a complete
waste of bandwidth.

As for whether it affects server performance or not, who cares?
Wastefulness is wastefulness, and is bad no matter the consequences.

Of course, a person with a seven-line signature is obviously not worrying
about stuff like this. It's clearly a waste of time to try to change your
mind, but hopefully someone else with more common sense may see this
exchange and understand.

Pete


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Old September 11th 05, 12:17 AM
gregg
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Peter Duniho wrote:


As for whether it affects server performance or not, who cares?
Wastefulness is wastefulness, and is bad no matter the consequences.

Of course, a person with a seven-line signature is obviously not worrying
about stuff like this. It's clearly a waste of time to try to change your
mind, but hopefully someone else with more common sense may see this
exchange and understand.

Pete


Firstly, if it were something I did with all, or even most responses, I'd
take the pet peeve I've tripped over seriously.

Since it isn't - I usually trim - then I just figure everyone has something
that puts a burr under their saddle and I happened to stumble on one.

Secondly, the only person who approached this with a gentlemanly manner and
a suggestion is Larry. So he got action. since it's true it had been years
since I read the usenet faq I took his advice, his offered URL, and looked
it up. (I respond better to mannerly suggestions than attacks).

Under " FAQ on making and using a .signature file" I see:

FAQ on making and using a .signature file
by Britt Klein

Last updated: 27 May 1996

"... Remember that inews and other news systems (the ones that
make up the majority of the news software on Usenet, actually) will cut
off everything after the fourth line, so it's good to stay below that
limit."

So I'm sorry but I find it hard to take seriously a limit written in 1996 -
and they don't say much about performance on this issue. If fact, they say
it gets cut off after 4 lines, by the news systems. It doesn't seem to get
cut off, at least not in my newsreader, but then of what value is this FAQ?

So much for the FAQ.

Anyhow if anyone wants to discuss this further I'm most happy to do so
off-line - in email. To economize, though, I'll cut down my signature for
the good of the Usenet universe.

After all - think of all the bandwidth that's already been wasted with these
entries. The horror........
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Old September 11th 05, 08:11 AM
Montblack
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("gregg" wrote)
[snip]
Anyhow if anyone wants to discuss this further I'm most happy to do so
off-line - in email. To economize, though, I'll cut down my signature for
the good of the Usenet universe.

After all - think of all the bandwidth that's already been wasted with
these
entries. The horror........



See this is good. You've started trimming - you're now down to only one "The
Horror." g


Mont

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Old September 11th 05, 09:28 AM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:17:46 -0400, gregg wrote:

After all - think of all the bandwidth that's already been wasted with these
entries. The horror........


yeah! finally, the killer argument that comes up with every discussion on
exactly this topic.
there should be a law for that. (usenet law, that is)

#m

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Old September 11th 05, 12:14 AM
Matt Whiting
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Peter Duniho wrote:

Of course, a person with a seven-line signature is obviously not worrying
about stuff like this. It's clearly a waste of time to try to change your
mind, but hopefully someone else with more common sense may see this
exchange and understand.


Yes, easier to just filter him.

Matt
 




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