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Old September 19th 05, 09:36 AM
Morgans
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" wrote

It sounds reasonable that injecting H2 into your fuel stream can
improve the combustion.


Hmm, I dunno, I feel a little puzzled or suspicious of how he's
achieving a net energy gain here. Can anyone debunk any obvious
fallacies here?


I'm not up to trying to read all of the web site, but the answer is to save
your money.

Water injection has been around in high HP engines, running at high,
constant loads, for a long time. Will it become practical for your airplane
or car?

Car, no, because of the low HP, and non-constant loads.

For airplanes? Yes, if all you want is a boost of extra HP, for a short
amount of time. Some WWII fighter planes used them for an extra boost for
take-off and for other times, such as dog fighting, where the extra HP meant
life or death. Some air racers also use water injection.

Why not all of the time? LOTS of water is needed to make much of a
difference, and the weight for enough water to last for more than a few
short bursts would be impractical to carry around. It also needed a lot of
monitoring, which no doubt could be taken care of by modern micro chips.

Lastly, if it was a viable option, wouldn't all major manufacturers be using
it? You will have to ignore the oil company conspiracy theories, to answer
that one. g
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Old September 19th 05, 11:29 PM
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Well, why do you equate H2 injection with water injection? From what I
see here, while water spray can act as an atomizer to increase surface
area, the H2 is itself combustible. Isn't there a difference?

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Old September 20th 05, 03:32 AM
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Well, why do you equate H2 injection with water injection? From what I
see here, while water spray can act as an atomizer to increase surface
area, the H2 is itself combustible. Isn't there a difference?


I'm sure it said H2O, when I read it. Yeah, that's my story, and I'm
sticking to it! g

I'll try to read better, next time. I've only been at it for about 43
years! ;-)
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Old September 27th 05, 08:19 AM
David E. Powell
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Morgans wrote:
" wrote

It sounds reasonable that injecting H2 into your fuel stream can
improve the combustion.


Hmm, I dunno, I feel a little puzzled or suspicious of how he's
achieving a net energy gain here. Can anyone debunk any obvious
fallacies here?


I'm not up to trying to read all of the web site, but the answer is to save
your money.

Water injection has been around in high HP engines, running at high,
constant loads, for a long time. Will it become practical for your airplane
or car?

Car, no, because of the low HP, and non-constant loads.

For airplanes? Yes, if all you want is a boost of extra HP, for a short
amount of time. Some WWII fighter planes used them for an extra boost for
take-off and for other times, such as dog fighting, where the extra HP meant
life or death. Some air racers also use water injection.

Why not all of the time? LOTS of water is needed to make much of a
difference, and the weight for enough water to last for more than a few
short bursts would be impractical to carry around. It also needed a lot of
monitoring, which no doubt could be taken care of by modern micro chips.

Lastly, if it was a viable option, wouldn't all major manufacturers be using
it? You will have to ignore the oil company conspiracy theories, to answer
that one. g


Well, water flashed to steam expands a lot. I knew a guy when I was in
High School, good fellow, into his moped, car, etc.

He rigged up a water injector on his moped to supercharge it, and got
some serious power, until he blew out his engine. Got a heck of a
battle scar on his leg, too.... but it was cool while it was going.
Glad he wasn't hurt worse, he was a great guy.

The huge increase in pressure is probably the reason. Building the
engine to take that for longer periods would probably mean so much
weight that it took the advantage of the extra power away.

DEP

(Any chance we can get a Stanley Steamer car going these days?)

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Jim in NC


 




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