Flying Lessons

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:36:01 GMT, "Steve" wrote in
::

I'm considering taking up flying as a hobby.

Actually, flying is a bit more than a hobby like Chess or wood
working, as an airman commands the public trust over those whom he
flies and whom he carries as passengers; flying is a life and death
matter after all.

It's something I've been wanting to do since I was a kid. The ultimate goal is to learn
how to fly lear jets or should I say private light jets.

Whose Lear jets are you planning to fly, you're own? Or are you
considering commercial operations for your hobby? You should be aware
they require two flight crew as well as a type rating and recurrent
training. Some light jets only require one pilot.

What flight training classes would I have to take and how many hrs would I
have to perform.

Flying jet aircraft is probably going to require a minimum of 500
hours of flight time and an instrument rating before an insurance
company will consider you.

I can pretty much fly as many times a week as necessary to get the
training my job schedule is highly flexible.

A minimum of two 1-hour lessons a week is required for good progress
in flight training, in my opinion. There are cram courses that
guarantee you a certificate in only a matter of days, but I have no
experience with them, and personally wouldn't recommend them.

I have noticed that most courses run from 5
to 7 k. To get a private pilots license. But what would it take to have the licensing to fly
a lear.

It depends. Do you plan to do that commercially or privately? You
might want to peruse the FAA licensing regulations:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...14cfrv2_02.tpl

And can those courses be taken right after getting my PPL.

While it is not contrary to Federal Aviation Regulations to receive
that training concurrently with your Private Pilot training, it would
require significant time and effort.

I saw where I could
get a PPL for 8,000 and get instrument training for another 6,000. Is there another
course needed to fly a lear and can all the classes be taken concurrently.

Why are you in such a hurry?

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:31:21 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:36:01 GMT, "Steve" wrote in
: :

I'm considering taking up flying as a hobby.

Actually, flying is a bit more than a hobby like Chess or wood
working, as an airman commands the public trust over those whom he
flies and whom he carries as passengers; flying is a life and death
matter after all.

It's something I've been wanting to do since I was a kid. The ultimate goal is to learn
how to fly lear jets or should I say private light jets.

Whose Lear jets are you planning to fly, you're own? Or are you
considering commercial operations for your hobby? You should be aware
they require two flight crew as well as a type rating and recurrent
training. Some light jets only require one pilot.

Eventually once all certificates are acquired yes I do plan to fly my
own. I'm not really wanting to be involved with working for anyone.
Mostly just to visit folks and attend events in other cities and
states and the occassional airplane only access fishing trip. Maybe a
flight over the backwoods of Alaska stuff like that.


What flight training classes would I have to take and how many hrs would I
have to perform.

Flying jet aircraft is probably going to require a minimum of 500
hours of flight time and an instrument rating before an insurance
company will consider you.

I can pretty much fly as many times a week as necessary to get the
training my job schedule is highly flexible.

A minimum of two 1-hour lessons a week is required for good progress
in flight training, in my opinion. There are cram courses that
guarantee you a certificate in only a matter of days, but I have no
experience with them, and personally wouldn't recommend them.
Yea, I wouldn't do that I have an ongoing interest in living a long
life


I have noticed that most courses run from 5
to 7 k. To get a private pilots license. But what would it take to have the licensing to fly
a lear.

It depends. Do you plan to do that commercially or privately? You
might want to peruse the FAA licensing regulations:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...14cfrv2_02.tpl

And can those courses be taken right after getting my PPL.

While it is not contrary to Federal Aviation Regulations to receive
that training concurrently with your Private Pilot training, it would
require significant time and effort.

I saw where I could
get a PPL for 8,000 and get instrument training for another 6,000. Is there another
course needed to fly a lear and can all the classes be taken concurrently.

Why are you in such a hurry?


Not really in a hurry. Maybe the question didn't come out right or I
don't understand the literature I'm reading from these flight school
ads I'm reading.

Example I read an ad that said I could get Mutilple Engine rating for
10k. Does that mean they take from 0 to PPL to Instruments to Multiple
engine for 10k or what.

Whose Lear jets are you planning to fly, you're own? Or are you
considering commercial operations for your hobby? You should be aware
they require two flight crew as well as a type rating and recurrent
training. Some light jets only require one pilot.

Eventually once all certificates are acquired yes I do plan to fly my
own. I'm not really wanting to be involved with working for anyone.
Mostly just to visit folks and attend events in other cities and
states and the occassional airplane only access fishing trip. Maybe a
flight over the backwoods of Alaska stuff like that.

Of course you didn't mean it, but you did cause me to conjur up the
apparition of a Lear-60 on floats.
In all honesty, my thoughts are that you should before anything
else, just go get your PP-ASEL. You need to start there in case, so go do
that -- first. Forget all the other stuff until then.

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:07:12 GMT, "Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com
wrote:

Casy-

Im extremely fresh at this what is a PP-ASEL




Whose Lear jets are you planning to fly, you're own? Or are you
considering commercial operations for your hobby? You should be aware
they require two flight crew as well as a type rating and recurrent
training. Some light jets only require one pilot.

Eventually once all certificates are acquired yes I do plan to fly my
own. I'm not really wanting to be involved with working for anyone.
Mostly just to visit folks and attend events in other cities and
states and the occassional airplane only access fishing trip. Maybe a
flight over the backwoods of Alaska stuff like that.

Of course you didn't mean it, but you did cause me to conjur up the
apparition of a Lear-60 on floats.
In all honesty, my thoughts are that you should before anything
else, just go get your PP-ASEL. You need to start there in case, so go do
that -- first. Forget all the other stuff until then.

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:07:12 GMT, "Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com
wrote:

Casy-

Im extremely fresh at this what is a PP-ASEL


Private Pilot - Single Engine Land

Thanks Jay

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:47:19 -0700, "Jay Beckman"
wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:07:12 GMT, "Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com
wrote:

Casy-

Im extremely fresh at this what is a PP-ASEL


Private Pilot - Single Engine Land

Private Pilot - Single Engine Land

It is a nit, but you left out the "airplane"

Private Pilot - Airplane Single Engine Land
--
Jim in NC

Larry Dighera wrote:

Actually, flying is a bit more than a hobby
....
flying is a life and death matter after all.

As are many hobbies ... not to mention driving a car.

Stefan

("Stefan"wrote)
...flying is a life and death matter after all.

As are many hobbies ... not to mention driving a car.


And if your name is Nelson Rockefeller so is, er, ...um ....(see link)

http://www.ishipress.com/marshak.htm
She was at his side when he died - sort of.


Montblack

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:17:30 +0200, Stefan
wrote in ::

Larry Dighera wrote:

Actually, flying is a bit more than a hobby
...
flying is a life and death matter after all.

As are many hobbies ... not to mention driving a car.



I wouldn't characterize driving a car as a hobby, unless perhaps it's
on a race track.

There are those hobbies, such as rock climbing, SCUBA diving, even
sailing, that are potentially life and death matters, but they don't
demand the public to extend their trust for their participation as
does aviation.

That is why I feel it is important for airmen to act responsibly and
prudent in the air and in public.